Patchogue can't accomodate the parking needs of existing homes amd businesses, yet they are throwing up new multi tenant housing all along the west side of town. Maybe Swezeys could be turned into a parking garage.

What is New Village at Four Corners

Take a look
www.newvillagepatchogue.com
www.tritecrealestate.com

Many issues have to be factored into the equation. Everyone would like to see the younger people stay close to home. Full time jobs are needed to keep them here. It doesn't matter if you build workforce housing rentals or not. If employment and career opportunities are not within a reasonable affordable commuting distance and the young person is not making the 80-85% of the average income or median income required for "workforce housing" participation. You can build, build, build and they may not stay. If the LIRR does not provide a schedule that works to get people to their possible job in the city at a cost that is affordable to a young working person, then it doesn't matter if you have one apartment available or 100. One thing that seems to be alittle confusing is where is the "Master Plan" for our Village. Prior planning, prevents poor performance, so let the community get to the planning. Construction projects do provide jobs, but we must realize that these jobs are for the duration of the project (ex.100 men for maybe a year). Permanent full time jobs is what we need with affordable benefits, not part-time or temporary ones. Continued development of creative "draws" to the Village and surrounding areas are needed, so we get a new hotel to operate at the minimum a 75% full time occupancy, so the owner's can profit and can keep local people employed. The wheels of progress can keep turning but we don't want our Village to be run over by it.

While you are looking at Mr Ferb's web sites;
Look at the NewVillage@Patchogue site and click on the benefits tab
http://www.newvillagepatchogue.com/home
It is empty (blank) because there are NO benefits to NewVillage@Patchogue!

Susan,
I support NuVillage Civic Association, I think it is positively charged, come listen this Thursday -7:30 at the Elks Lodge. My statement is general, a "Master Plan" would direct the community and with a plan comes the need to think broadly. I support Open, Fair, Government.

What Patchogue needs is a store like Kohl's-a depatment store like Sweezey's was. If we want to attract people to Patchogue, we need stores where they can shop. Also, we need a supermarket. Lack of these insures that residents must go outside the village to shop.

Having been a renter for over a decade in many different cities across the US, it is important to have stores to shop in that are within WALKING distance. This brings the foot traffic we need. Apartments and condos do not bring people to the village if the residents must get in their car to drive to the grocery store and outside the village to do their shopping.

I agree i think a&p used to be were cbs store is. In the late 70's early 80's and was very convenient for people in the village to do grocery shopping.that kept money in the village

I agree with Laureen. If you want to attract young people to Patchogue you need to provide high-wage, high-tech employment opportunities. One way to accomplish this is building a "live-work-play" technology incubator at Four Corners. The concept is very similar to that of the Art Space building, except it's designed around the needs of technology entrepreneurs. As with the Art Space, this incubator concept will serve multiple purposes; as a work space to develop new technology, as a showcase to promote networking and collaboration between these and other start-ups, to provide a critical mass of innovation that will attract venture capital and, of course, to provide an affordable living space for young, very talented people in the middle of a vibrant downtown. Patchogue is within 16 miles of one of the largest public research universities in the country (Stony Brook), seven miles to an airport, and a train ride to one of the largest cities and markets in the world. If the goal of the Four Corners development really is to help attract and keep our young people on Long Island, it's an idea worth considering.

Elisabeth McGuire suggested the incubator thing in her blog about the 4 corners.
I like the idea too. It's much better than 291 rental units. That took no
imagination and where the heck are all of those people going to work?

Mary - Thanks for pointing our that the New Village benefits page was dark. It's back.

http://www.newvillagepatchogue.com/benefits#

New Village the WAY TO GO folks!

Tom- The benefits isn't back, it was posted after I pointed out the absence.

If Tritec could incorporate the bank and the Brewhouse into its design, it could also incorporate the Carnegie Library. Those buildings are in scale with the two-story street curtain of Patchogue. It is strange that the main rendering of the project is taken from the viewpoint of heading north on South Ocean Avenue. This is not the entrance to Patchogue. One arrives in Patchogue from the east, west or north, with views of steeples placed in the near distance. No steeples would be seen given
the five story massed residential buildings proposed by Tritec. If you follow the fly over proposal suggested by Tom Ferb on Tritec's project website you won't recognize anything as Patchogue-like. Much, much too dense.

I would rather see a professional building in the old Sweezy space( No health center), but medical professionals and legal offices. Along those lines. People who work there will shop and eat in the Village the same with their clientele. There would be a modest effect on the parking and in the evening most Dr's and Lawyers offices would be closed by dinner time freeing up the parking. I would also not make the building taller than three stories so it remains in keeping with the surrounding shops and does not take from the integrity of the historic structures on Main st. I think this would provide jobs for all levels of education and experience.

No more apartments, period!

I am sorry, but the benefits look really crappy.

Economic Benefits
Population 600 - Not sure why this is a benefit
Total Annual Sales(Retail)- $935,355 (equal to one restaurant one Main St.)
Estimated Annual Sales Tax - $626,660 (goes to the county, we need it in the school District, property taxes go to the school District, I think they have an exemption for 10 years)
Net Property Tax Gain $397,450 (really pathetic, equal to one house or two)

Full Time Jobs-260 (all low paying jobs that dont support buying a home on Long Island)
The below statement show read we expect to make money from this location by charging higher rent. We dont care about quaintness or a charm in your downtown, but making a buck. If you dont like over population and transients, tough.

And believe me I know because I rented for years before I bought my house. Renting is normal and okay, but I had many different neighbors in shorts spans of time, some good, some not so good.
"There's demographic evidence; there's consumer research evidence; but probably the most compelling evidence is the price premium people are willing to pay to live in a walkable urban place, that the survey's show anywhere from a 40% to 200% price premium on a price per square foot basis for a walkable urban place as oppose to a competitive near by drivable suburban place."

I believe that the current plan for the four corners is wrong for our beautiful and historical village. The architectural design and archway are horrible. The garden designs are strictly fantasy. Worst of all, erecting five story buildings on Main Street is a travesty. Patchogue 2012 PLEASE listen to your village residents! I am sure that over half of us don't want these apartments on our Main Street. Please don't make this ugly apartment complex be the legacy that you leave to Patchogue after all the good work that you have done. If you won't change this terrible plan before election day and INFORM the residents of a new plan, no matter what the court decision turns out to be, then I cannot vote for you on March 20. PLEASE don't do this!!!