Patchogue First and Paul Pontieri

I personally would rather see the Paul Pontieri and the trustees resolve their issues and continue performing miracles as the "Patchogue First Team."

Paul Pontieri, Mayor of Patchogue Village, Patchogue, NY, has been accused of the following actions by Patchogue Village Deputy Mayor Stephen McGiff and Trustee Gerard Crean:

• Selling his old car back to Patchogue Village, via his relative that was a car dealer, at a profit of $500 to his relative. Mayor Pontieri said he saved the village thousands of dollars. 

• Paul was accused of hiring a relative as a custodian. Details are not definitive, but Paul also says that he saved the village money.

• Taking event tickets from a friend, who ultimately did business with the village!

• Making a loan of $150,000 to "Art Space," without consulting the trustees.

• Mayor Pontieri has been accused of pushing the acceptance of the 291 Tri Tec apartments? In actuality two trustees were in favor of accepting Tri Tec, two were opposed, and the mayor held the deciding vote. To this day I am opposed to the Tri Tec complex without the hotel and tower. Hopefully this project could be returned to its original configuration. 

• Paul Pontieri was accused of increasing his salary by 3.4 times! This issue brought to light the fact that Paul Pontieri was receiving only $15,000 for a job that required 60 hours of work per week; a trustee received only $3,600 compensation! How ridiculous is that! Salaries were increased to $36,000, and $12,000 dollars respectively. We have five people that are qualified Professors, lawyers and principals, working for us at a substandard wage! These people deserve a medal!

It was Paul Pontieri in conjunction with the Village trustees that created an atmosphere for change in Patchogue. The mayor and the trustees constitute the Patchogue First caucus that with the help of local activist residents, ousted the previous ineffective Patchogue Village Government.

I do not believe in pursuing an issue without first considering the consequences! Paul Pontieri and the current slate of Patchogue Village officials were and still are tough on crime; the former slate was not!

I love to play Slot Machines! "So what does that have to do with this issue?" "Please bear with me!" Before I play a slot machine I test it with quarters. I keep inserting quarters into the slot machine and observe what happens. If I see that a particular machine is a "winner," I then feel safe to put more money into that particular machine. In my personal opinion, I believe that Mayor Paul Pontieri and the village trustees are indeed the best slate of Patchogue Village officials, that we have ever had!.

We as a population, have for the most part, lost touch with what makes a successful business, government, or village! Top down management always results in dismal failure due to gridlock. Administration talks down to Middle Management which talks down to Supervisors who talk down to the rank and file workers. Everyone is busy defending themselves against the people above them, and nothing gets done!

"And now;" we have Patchogue First! From its inception, "Patchogue First" was determined to leave the political rubbish behind and actually address real village issues that effected us all. It was the Patchogue First Team which consists of the Mayor and the trustees that jointly addressed and solved the critical problems, that ultimately resulted in the Patchogue that we now enjoy today. Seventeen years ago our village was not a desirable place to live!

Patchogue First has from it very beginning, followed the "bottom up" model for government; everyone including the worker, was an important part of the team. Everyone worked hard because they were appreciated and recognized as an important part of the overall solution to local problems! The Mayor and trustees worked closely with the Neighborhood Watch, and the Police Department. We, the residents of Patchogue Village, enjoy a good quality of life because our current government is accessible. We as a village have moved forward from what was a questionable quality of life, to what is now a vibrant community! Most of all, go to the Patchogue Village Facebook page and read what the new generation has to say about our village! It is obvious, our young people are very proud to be connected with Patchogue village! I rest my case!

"A chain is as good as its weakest link." The fastest racing car in the world cannot win a race with a second rate pit crew! I personally would rather see the Paul Pontieri and the trustees resolve their issues and continue performing miracles as the "Patchogue First Team."

Yes Paul is a "country boy," and my personal tendency is to view the "Car," family "hiring," and Art Space "loan issues," to be sketchy at best. I would rather see them just go away! 

As a gambler, you've got to know when to hold, you've got to know when to fold, and you've got to know when to walk away! As a village resident that believes in the "Patchogue First," slate of Public Officials, I am not quite ready to walk away! 

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Patchogue Snoop February 29, 2012 at 04:14 PM
Bob Micca, Why the insults? Gangs of drug dealers?????? Murders????????? Restaurants are nice but not when they morph(chicken anyone???) into kids hangouts at night. The clubs on the river should be razed. They are illegal, unsafe and an attractive nuisence for the hardworking neighbors who MAKE Patchogue what it is, not merchants looking to line their pockets selling booze to underage kids and young adults.
John Bogack February 29, 2012 at 11:09 PM
Missing Post? Patchogue Snoop didn't you post a detailed report about alleged health and safety violations at a number of village resturants and bars yesterday? If you did where is that post now? Seems to be missing. I wanted to respond to it.
Patchogue Snoop February 29, 2012 at 11:29 PM
Dont know, but they are not allegations, I am an inspector with 28 years experience...say what you want but they are my personal observations based on code.
John Bogack February 29, 2012 at 11:32 PM
Patchogue Snoop I believe you but what happened to the post? Did you post and then unposted because the Patch itself says it has no record of your post. This is a mystery I was hoping you could answer. And if you can't figure out what happened please repost your observations. I though they were very interesting.
Patchogue Snoop February 29, 2012 at 11:39 PM
No, it exceeded the character limit and I tried to post in two separate posts. I saw it and now it is gone.
Bob Micca March 01, 2012 at 04:10 PM
snoop.. reserving my comments re: old-fartism for awhile, You're claiming as Fact a Patchogue establishment is serving underaged? Turn 'em in then, Buster! That's a serious allegation and problem! Additionally, If _I_ were being kept awake by something "illegal", I'd gather my neighbors and find us a 'good' lawyer... the one's who win.
John Bogack March 01, 2012 at 04:26 PM
You are right Bob M and an allegation that any business is serving underage patrons is serious. It would be a crime. It is very simple to contact the State Liquor Autority about such claims by simplying going to their website where a complaint can be filed on line: if real no more liquor license. Where it gets more difficult however is the issue of noise violations (decibel level and or music played outside of lawful time limits). It's not just a matter of calling Code, or getting a lawyer. I will give you a current example. I currently have a FOIL request with the Village court on this matter. It is my understanding that last season 11 tickets for various noise violations were made against the Dublin Deck. Not until JANUARY 2012 were those noise complaints finally decided after adjournments. Five tickets were founded. The club was fined 3000 and lost its commercial noise license for FEBRUARY 2012. It is closed during that part of the season. I do understand however that the owners are looking for some way to seal off their sound for this summer. That sounds responsible on their part. However long delays, empty penalities (i.e. losing a license to play noise when the club is closed) hardly seems to be the kind of protection that residents deserve. I am just waiting for the court to confirm these claims and then I am going to Village Hall to ask for a change in the code. We need real laws with teeth not phony protections if that is what happended.
Rich Stevens March 01, 2012 at 04:43 PM
The village board must approve the license for amplified music every year. If the establishment is violating the village code or times given for the amplified music, the Board of Trustees should refuse to grant license. There are avenues that the Village can take to address this issue, but do they want to do so. The mayor is also the Chief Law Enforcement Officer for the village, and is required to make sure that village laws are obeyed. I do not know how the people that live on both sides of the river put up with the noise in the summer, I live some distance away and also can hear it. Put the blame where it belongs?
John Bogack March 01, 2012 at 05:11 PM
Rich. The Village Board does not approve licenses for amplified music. Clubs pay a fee based on what they claim is their occupancy limit. The fee is very low. They get a one year license. All owners do is go to see the Village Clerk who then processes the license application. Perhaps a better change would be where a license has been suspended no new license can be granted without the kind of review you are advocating. I am not against any business. I am against noise violations. Bringing the matter of a noise license renewal in front of the whole Village Board where there has been a suspension could serve a good purpose by underlining that compliance is mandatory. In fact I would say two suspensions should lead to the loss of a license for a whole year not just 90 days which I think is the current law. A true loss of a noise licence would mean no live music for a season, and that would hurt a club's bottom line much more than any fines would ever impact. People would go to where they could hear music. And yes the loud music is terrible. I just don't understand why there can not be a compromise: enough music at the club so that patrons can enjoy their music but not loud enough to trespass into the lives of surrounding neighborhoods. There has got to be a better way, still unfound at this point in time unfortunately for all.
Rich Stevens March 01, 2012 at 05:25 PM
John it is possible that the present administration changed the rules, but not the law. Please go the Village Website and go to the Village Code section. Village Law 302.1c states that a permit must be obtained from the Village Board of Trustees. Please review and comment.
Jo Miller March 01, 2012 at 05:41 PM
Hi Bob Micca. The Rliver has become Party Central and the attitude is the residents er damned. Your suggestion of a good lawyer is not a bad idea.. A Writ of Mandemus could force the village to enforce its' own ordinances
John Bogack March 01, 2012 at 05:53 PM
Rich,281.9 that's not a radio band but the relevent code enforcement section with respect to commercial noise licenses. In double checking I see that the language of the code does say that the Village Board shall grant the license. However, I can tell you from experience, these licenses go through the clerk's office as a matter or routine. Additionally while the law calls for a immediate suspension after a second violation that should be read to mean "an adjudicated violation" not just the issuance of a second ticket. Licenses are suspended for 90 days following a court finding that a violation had occurred. That still allows post season suspension and back in business by the next season. So I guess it would be plausible to argue to the Board that it should not delegate these licenses to the Clerk's office and that it ought to grant each and every one that is applied for as the law explicitly provides. Secondly I meant to say in past posts that the Village Court system has a role in this issue too. If it did take almost half a year for the court system to resolve the tickets at the Dublin Deck for example, why were all those adjournments handed out all during the summer season blocking enforcment when enforcement was needed most? Judge McQuire should be included in this discussion too about the role of the Village Court in these issues it seems to me.
1 March 01, 2012 at 06:09 PM
Mazzi supporting Pontieri. Why am I not surprised. The Town of Brookhaven that supports high density housing / The Village of Patchogue that now supports high density housing. Employer, TOB / Employee, Pontieri and puppet Jack. What a 180 degree turn from 8 years ago when all we heard was about the elimination of illegal and high density. Now all we care about is main st and the constant building of high density, forget about the back streets where we live. This is the issue people. Remember what you voted for 8 years ago? Make sure you vote for the same thing now. The Pontieri team has changed it's principles and ideas of what Patchogue should be now and in the future. Period. Obvious. They've said it in writing and actions.
Patchogue Snoop March 01, 2012 at 06:31 PM
Buster?? Old Fart??? I know two clubs have already been busted. As for Pontieri doing anything about these clubs well....fat chance. They have them in their pocket. I believe an adjournment is granted as a matter of formality and request.;
John Bogack March 01, 2012 at 06:45 PM
Patchogue Snoop. Yes adjournments are granted as a matter of formality and request. But look how that can be abused. A ticket is issued in the begining of the summer. Adjourments then occur monthly pushing the ticket issue further and furthrer away from being decided. When it is decided it's the winter not the summer. This is simply a dodge and our village court should not be part of that dodge. I think we need a special quality of life part of the village court system that decides these tickets within no less than 30 days from issuance. That way if a second violation occurs it will have greater impact including a noise license loss in the middle of the summer season. That's an effective penalty and one that an owner would be wise to avoid. In fact owners might look to find ways of reducing noise if they knew for sure that they were not going to be able to get adjourments one after another as a matter of formality and request. Judges stand or ought to stand for the people of the village. Justice requires swift decisions in some cases. Noise violations should be determined in the summer when they are alleged to occur not in the winter when the circumstances that led to the ticketing no longer exists. And BTW which two clubs do you know have been "busted" and why if you know that too?
Patchogue Snoop March 01, 2012 at 06:48 PM
Bob Micca wrote................The bulk of the allegations against the mayor are very picayune and petty. Since when is Grand Larceny picayune and petty? It is a Felony in New York. Using any gas is one arguement......in the volume the records show points to theft and misuse of that gas for other than Village business. If this guy stoops to such a low level what else is he involved in?? I think the DA owes the Village residents a complete investigation of all involved in Patchogue First. Anyone remember poor Dan Wirshup(sp?) and what they did to him?
Patchogue Snoop March 01, 2012 at 07:01 PM
John, Can't and won't say. Yes, you may be right about the adjournent game. Another issue is the illegal expansions of these clubs and my aforemention fire and code violations. How do you put an occupancy limit on a dock outside with an illegal bar? That docks underpinnings are ancient and I could feel it swaying the one time I was there. The bar and stage area is constructed poorly and not to code. On that occasion, I had dinner. A sizzling type steak dish went out of control and filled the tiny eating area with smoke. We had to leave until it cleared but no smoke alarm sounded! That Dublin Deck place is made of hay and straw....was it treated to be fireproof? The police are there every night it seems, why should the taxpayer have to pay for this? How do these places get fire coverage? Where is the fire marshall and who is he?
Patchogue Snoop March 01, 2012 at 07:02 PM
I can say it was for serving minors.
Rich Stevens March 01, 2012 at 07:20 PM
John, all I can tell you is that prior administrations granted or denied permits for ampilfied music for bars, special events, fireman's park events, block parties, etc. The one we obtained for fireman's park was between the hours of 2-8pm on a certain day. I know there is a pending court case on the Tiki Bar, and the Acting Village Judge is hearing it, since the Village Judge recused himself. I can not believe that a small village like this, where everyone knows everything about everyone has a Village Government that allows violations of the village code or special permit continue year after year. If a business is doing such: DENY GIVING THEM A PERMIT.
John Bogack March 01, 2012 at 07:37 PM
Rich, as I respond to all these posts I find myself reliving the events of the past four years where I have advocated for the rule of law. It's been a depressing lesson to me how manipulative the process can be. For example you are absolutely correct that for a block party and other special events the Village Board has to give explicit approval for those special events. They do it all the time but the same is not true of a major business or club. What an irony that a neighborhood block party gets a closer look than a major club or restuarant but they do. The above legal matter you are referring to is the basis of a FOIL request that I have pending with Judge McQuire. What has happened to the scores of tickets that I thought had been issued with reference to the Off Key Tikki bar and still not resolved? In that case though there is an extra problem and that is the owner has sought relief in State Supreme Court, while he does, the local village court has taken no action waiting to see how that decision comes down. Might be the correct legal position but since the supreme court matter has per village officials been adjourned time and time again by the owner, now heading on 18 months, end result: nothing get done. This is another aspect of the problem. People give up. They feel it is hopeless and they have no power and they stop complaining and they just take it. But I have no where else to go and so I still look for ways to find justice and some peace at night.
Jo Miller March 01, 2012 at 08:51 PM
John The reason that a neighborhood block party gets more scrutiny than the noisy businesses along the river is because the attitude is the residents be damned.
Bob Micca March 01, 2012 at 10:21 PM
Snoop Wrote: "Bob Micca wrote................'The bulk of the allegations against the mayor are very picayune and petty.' Since when is Grand Larceny picayune and petty?" - Snoop NOTE Snoop: I said, "The Bulk".. I didn't say, "All" +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ To the rest: Before Steve Keegan became Mayor, he, Yannacone, me, and Dozens of other CPR's (Concerned Patchogue Residents) attended WEEKLY meetings in the Village Hall where we'd VOICE our many complaints for hours each week at a VERY HIGH DECIBEL LEVEL.. Persistent Squeaky Hinges eventually get OILED. IF AND ONLY IF you've a legit complaint, Go with your Mob to the Village Meetings. Know Well your Village (and other) Codes/Laws re: NOISE.. including certified measurements of Noise thereof. Have a genuine Lawyer in mind. Demand a looking into.. Follow up at next meeting(s). etc.. One of the very last things that this Village wants .. is a LawSuit that they lose. +++
Rich Stevens March 02, 2012 at 12:19 AM
In today's LI Advance Mayor Pontieri is quoted as saying he is starting a program to have the village make house checks when residents are away. My neighbor used to have the village constables check their home every winter for years when they went to Florida. Once a constable came to my door to inquire why I parked in their driveway, because my car's license plate number was not on the form they submitted to be at their home. I am sure that this service was provided free of charge to residents for about 20 years. Does anyone remember it, or ever have their home checked?
Patchogue Snoop March 02, 2012 at 01:23 PM
Bob Micca Take your anger elsewhere. I am not Buster or an old fart. Those are insults. Snoop As for house checks did Pontieri run that by the board? Are we villagers going to be involved in lawsuits, comp claims from the idiot squad doing the checks? Another phoney election tactic to get votes. Signing off for good, dont like the attitude here from certain people
Residents First March 02, 2012 at 06:52 PM
Jo, quality of life issues are very important to us at Residents First. We would love to discuss this topic with you at our next Issues Forum this coming Tuesday, March 6th if you are able to make it. It is being held at 7:30 PM at the Brickhouse Brewery. We would love to hear your ideas and discuss possible solutions to these problems with you. We all want businesses to prosper, but not at the expense of the residents. Our agenda for this evening is flexible—on this evening we want to hear what is most important to the residents. We hope you can join us. Have a great weekend!
John Bogack March 02, 2012 at 07:37 PM
Time for a correction. I have written at times about various tickets outstanding agains the Off Key Tikki Bar and some recently resolved tickets with reference to the Dublin Deck. In both cases I attributed those cases to Judge McQuire. I am now informed that in both cases he had previously recused himself. Acting Village Justice Lecktrecker presided over the tickets reference Dubln Deck and Justice Lecktrecker still presides over whatever number of tickets are on the village court docket reference the Off Key Tikki bar. That is a more accurate reporting of facts. As well it has come to my attention that adjournments, in both matters, are not just a matter of the presiding judge deciding this in a vacuum. The attorney for the defendant business of course has a role, and apparently very importantly so does the village through its legal advocate at the village court level. Judges take into account whether to adjourn based on whether the recommendation is one that is mutually being made. I still have a FOIL request pending with the Village court reference the Dublin Deck. I am hoping to track some kind of time line so that I can figure out when tickets were issued, when there was adjournments, when they were actually decided. It's my hope that this will then become a factual basis for trying to figure out just how many adjournents did occur. The next question will then by: why?
Bob Micca March 03, 2012 at 01:51 AM
Snoop. You appear to _have been_ a font of insults. Sorry to see you go.. and as they say - especially in politics, IF you cannot take the heat? Stay outta the Kitchen!
Kim Martino March 03, 2012 at 09:58 AM
After all he has done with our tax dollars, why would Mayor Pontieri think we want to go eat cupcakes with him? That really takes the cake.
Rich Stecens March 03, 2012 at 05:20 PM
Paul, got your campaign material today, but you forgot to mention that you were voted out of office in 1994 as a Village Trustee when you received the least amount of votes. Lynn beat you 1994 and Liz will in 2012 . In 1994 you sponsored bringing Breslin to Main Street that caused an eyesore, and you are trying to do it again with Tritec in 2012. You also did not mention that as a successful business owner, that business failed and people loss their jobs. You have met your Waterloo?.
Richard Kemp June 01, 2012 at 01:44 AM
Steven and John: Just for your info N.Y. State Law prohibits closed door meetings, It is called The Open Meetings Law,which states in essence all meetings must be publicly advertised and all discussion on a topic must be open to the Public. Executive session can be entered into at any point during a meeting,however even if the intent is to have the entire meeting in executive session the meeting must be called to order and then a motion to enter into executive session made and voted upon,if the motion is carried by a majority vote then Executive session can be entered into. Also Executive session can only be entered into under certain circumstances such as personnel,or labor negotiation and there are other circumstances. Robert's Rules do not apply as N.Y.State Laws come first. By the way Ben you forgot all about the $17 G in Gasoline Pontieri allegdely stole. Do any of you folks think that S.McGiff ,a Lawyer would risk his Professional reputation ?????????? Ok so Pontieri won the Election,now I think it is about time that he cleared his own name If Possible.......


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