Question: What Stores Do You Want Downtown?

New retail space is coming, what businesses should take it?

There are already many downtown businesses in Patchogue, and more on the way with the recently approved  that will bring 46,000 square feet of retail and 18,000 square feet of office space. There is also the new 31 West Main Street building that already has some office space occupied.

What businesses would you like to see move into these spaces? A book shop? Another restaurant? Clothing?

Jenn H. May 19, 2011 at 11:23 PM
Bicycle rentals and bike racks throughout the village!
Geraldine May 20, 2011 at 01:10 AM
A decent grocery store such as King Kullen would be nice or a reasonably priced produce market. Not everyone can afford Whole Foods.
Heather Champion May 20, 2011 at 01:14 AM
I would love a Trader Joe's. People come from the forks and the Hamptons to shop at the one in Lake Grove. It is always packed. There is a built-in market for their products, they bring in a more "upper-class" element who is more likely to stay and shop in the other stores and have lunch in town. In other words we get them in for TJ's and keep them to spend more throughout the village. Plus it would save me a ton of gas money.
Jeanne Boyle May 20, 2011 at 02:45 AM
A Trader Joes would rock, but what we really need is a book store, like barnes & noble.
Robert Borowski, PhD May 20, 2011 at 10:08 AM
All great ideas I like: 1. Panera Bread, definately bring in a crowd 2. Trader Joes or some other organic/whole food store 3. Independent book store (like Book Barn in Niantic Ct.) 4. LL Beans would be cool too, good place for clothing and lots of cool things like fishing, etc
Through the Looking Glass May 20, 2011 at 11:17 AM
Many of the above ideas are great, BUT most aren't likely to happen.The suggested stores and business do NOT open in downtown areas, but in malls. They depend on the high volume of a busy road, not the cutesy village venue. They are great ideas, don't get me wrong, but if you think about the other locations of most of those businesses, they are all on roads like 27, 25 and 347. Yes Starbucks is in Sayville, but as has already been pointed out we HAVE a coffee shop. A natural food store would be nice but I doubt that any would gamble on a downtown. The supermarket chains are stepping on their toes as it is. A big chain supermarket is not a downtown sort of business. They already have a big presence on Sunrise. Yes, there are a few in Blue Point and Sayville, but they are stores that have existed since many of us were kids. Who from Patchogue recalls when we had a Grand Union, a Hills, a Bohack and an A&P on Main Street? What happened to them? They moved to Sunrise Highway or closed. As for a book store, I agree that a small independent would be a good touch but don't expect a B & N to open. A good small store could do very nicely in a space about the size of the Richard York store, but you would need the commitment of the community to keep it alive. Transient business wouldn't be enough. Panera wants a mall, not a downtown. Unless the hotel had been built most of the ideas wouldn't have lasted for long due to lack of business.
Richard Murray May 20, 2011 at 01:45 PM
First of all, Starbucks? Are you mad? Roast is superior to S'bux in every imaginable way. They roast IN-HOUSE! Anyone who wants a Starbucks in town has been brainwashed by mass marketing. And, yes, an organic market would be nice to see, but I don't know that there'd be the required space for a Whole Foods Market. If people are interested in a Whole Foods out our way, they have a "suggest a location" link on their website: http://www.wholefoodsmarket.com/company/contact_submit.php
Christopher Capobianco May 20, 2011 at 02:13 PM
I've lived here almost 20 years and have always been fascinated with people who say "they should bring (fill in the blank) to main street." The fact is "they" cant bring a business that does not want to be here and it's up to "us" to create demand. I have an office in the village and I have noticed a lot more people walking the sidewalks during the day and that's a good thing. We need to get the word out to retailers that this is the case. And we as local residents need to support the local businesses that are here already so we can get Patchogue back towards the retail center it once was. Buy furniture, a pair of shoes a sandwich or a cup of coffee in town once in a while and support instead of going to those chain stores or restaurants up on Sunrise or at the mall.
Jennie Cesario May 20, 2011 at 02:22 PM
I would love to see a Panera and a Trader Joe's or Whole Foods. I know a lot of people who make the trek to Lake Grove for the healthier choices at Trader Joe's and Whole Foods. The Panera in Bohemia is always busy and would do a great business in downtown Patchogue.
Christopher Capobianco May 20, 2011 at 02:29 PM
I didn't answer the question did I? I agree that it's too late for a Starbucks. We may disagree about whose coffee is better but Roast makes a good cup of coffee and the shop has quickly become a "hub" in the village. Plus, there is going to be another coffee shop in the ArtSpace building. I am a huge Trader Joe's fan and agree that a Patchogue location would be great for them and for us, but the four corners location is too small. I heard Brookhaven hospital might move out of the West Main location. That would be a great Trader Joe's. It's true that the chains are not going to gamble on a downtown. Same goes for a diner/breakfast shop. They need their own parking lot. "Brand Name" restaurants? Please, no. Sandwiches? There are countless locally owned restaurants in the village that have reasonably priced lunch and sandwiches plus "to go" sandwiches at Karl Ehmer's, the Bagel place on South Ocean - even Roast has sandwiches now. I have heard a lot of suggestions about clothing retail and I agree. We have 3 shoe stores in town - they've had a tough time surviving but they are still here. It'd be nice to have an alternative to Burlington for Men's clothing - but not as high end as Carl & Bob's was. Patchogue Bookstore? We have one on north ocean. They are very small but can order any book you need. If we support them and their business grows, they can move to a larger location. Gift shops, boutique, art supply? Excellent! But they would need local customers!
Through the Looking Glass May 20, 2011 at 02:49 PM
Great points Christopher but who is actually reading and absorbing them? I agree with you 100% and you have a good perspective. Unfortunately I feel that many posters think the mere existence of the suggested stores would make thing better. If we don't actually shop/eat/buy there, the stores will fail. I used to make every effort to shop in Patchogue and even went to Richard York for shoes. Unfortunately I fell into the "Bob's" mentality and haven't been to York in years. My fault, but the malls are always easier and the stores there are often part of a general shopping trip, ie Bobs is near King Kullen or Best Buys or (fill in the blank) where going into town requires the "hassel" of finding a parking space and then going in. I DO buy furniture at Stanley's however so I didn't completely abandon the village!
KP55 May 20, 2011 at 03:34 PM
Trader Joe's! A sushi restaurant like Aji 53 in Bayshore! A music/bookstore like B&N that could have a small Starbuck's inside.
KP55 May 20, 2011 at 03:36 PM
And we need a good old fashioned New York delicatessan - we don't have any around!!!
T. Marie May 20, 2011 at 03:57 PM
I agree, any boutique or gift shops like the ones in Sayville will change the face of Main St. from dollar stores and pawn shops for the better.
Kim May 20, 2011 at 04:05 PM
I absolutely LOVE the Four Star Store in Sayville. You can run in there for simple household items (sink drainer, kitchen towels, candles) , Shower & Wedding Gifts (crystal, etc), children's gifts (classic toys like Lego's, Barbies and building Blocks), as well as custom goods. The price is right and it's so convenient. A little bit of everything in one space, and they, too, are on Main Street....no issues with parking because they have a back entrance. I truly miss the OLD Swezeys for this reason alone. You could get anything in there you needed. When they moved to the new building (Briarcliffe), it was too BIG of a space, the quality of the goods were down and the charm of the store was gone.
Kim May 20, 2011 at 04:07 PM
...and a BAKERY. We had that wonderful little bakery just to the west of Patchogue Theater for a little while. It was perfect place to pop in on a Sunday morning for fresh bread and desserts....
Jonathan May 20, 2011 at 04:20 PM
There's no 'like' button on patch, but if there were, I would like this.
sheila May 20, 2011 at 05:24 PM
I think a bike shop with rentals would be awesome. Locals can get repairs & maint. done and tourists could do a rental & tour the town & waterfront area! Also, we really have no clothing stores besides the colony shop & blums that Im aware of. It would be great to have something for clothing needs!
Christopher Capobianco May 20, 2011 at 06:32 PM
I remember when the first FourStar stores opened on Long Island - I agree that would be great in Patchogue and would be a little more high quality competition to the dollar stores. That would work well in one of the old Jay's stores on South Ocean! I miss local bakeries also but unfortunately the fact that every supermarket has a bakery now was death to most of them. Same thing with local Pharmacies.
Christopher Capobianco May 20, 2011 at 06:36 PM
This Tuesday the Patchogue Planning board will consider an application for Hoshi Restaurant, 31 West Main Street, who seeks permission to open new 4350 square foot Sushi Hibachi restaurant and bar. That would be outstanding!
Amy Keyes May 20, 2011 at 06:52 PM
I agree with all of Jonathan's suggestions. A breakfast place would be divine, some kind of fresh/organic food store and a book cafe would all be perfect.
Amy Keyes May 20, 2011 at 07:00 PM
I have to disagree with you on the idea that none of the suggested retail operations would ever locate in a downtown area. Maybe that was a solid argument 5-10 years ago, but there is a movement (call it smart growth, walkable communities, whatever you'd like) to relocate communities (and the homes they live in and the stores they shop in) to downtown areas exactly like Patchogue. Who wants to shop or eat breakfast on Nesconset Highway? BLECK! Not me! The Village Board took the critical leap of faith by standing behind the Tritec development, that will bring people (like me) who want to live in a vibrant, historic piece of Long Island -- where you don't have to drive to get everywhere -- right smack into the middle of Patchogue. Call me crazy but a unique, top-of-the-line housing development and the hundreds of young professionals, and families it's likely to bring might cause Panera, Trader Joes or even a future small business owner to consider Patchogue .
Amy Keyes May 20, 2011 at 07:02 PM
Yes! A bakery.
tobo86 May 20, 2011 at 07:09 PM
How about Trader Joe's, The Great Outdoors ;), Williams Sonoma, Pottery Barn, Panera Bread; and can we PLEASE get some decent boutiques ala Sayville and Bellport? There are no upscale clothing stores in town, which forces me to go to the Mall. How about Chico's, Coldwater Creek, Black Market White House? Let's get Main Street rockin by adding some stores that draw consumers to Patchogue; stores that are not on every other corner, and provide well-rounded services for the community's needs. Heck, even an Ace Hardware would bring people to town. Get vision and go big! The landlords need to work with these merchants and not be greedy - for the better good of Patchogue!
Scott May 24, 2011 at 11:34 AM
So many great suggestions. Considering how so many of us are in agreement proves how obvious these are to what Patchogue is trying to become. Obviously it goes beyond the administration simply bringing these businesses in, but clearly the village is in better shape to attract them now then they were even just a year or 2 ago. As for more bars creating more drunks, that is some heavy generalization. I live right in the middle of the village, basically on Main Street, and the only drunks I encounter are wandering around during the day and they aren't going in and out of bars. They are drinking in alley ways and whatnot.
stephanie May 24, 2011 at 11:50 AM
So the only drunks in the Village are drinking in the alleys? Well, I too live in the village and the drunks in the alleys are not hopping in cars and driving down Cedar Ave . blowing through stop signs. There are many .many young people drinking in these bars and then getting in cars and driving. It is not a generalization. It is a fact, more bars are the last thing the Village needs.
Scott May 24, 2011 at 12:15 PM
Successful villages, at least the size of Patchogue, are very dependent on entertainment. Bars are a big part of that. There are different types, obviously, which cater to different demographics. Drunk driving is a problem, period, it is not exclusive to Patchogue. Also, living in the village, you must notice the non-stop speeding down streets at all hours by all types of people, not just the "drunks" you mentioned. To generalize that these problems are mostly if not all because of bars is way off base. I'm happy you did the necessary research to determine that bars being the last thing Patchogue needs is a fact. The village needs more restaurants and those restaurants often have a lively bar scene within them which is needed to pay the bills.
stephanie May 24, 2011 at 12:21 PM
If you think having so many bars is not part of the problem then you are way off base.As of now we have more bars and restaurants than Sayville, yet , Sayville is still the more attractive option. We need shoppers, not drinkers. The only options we have now are Payless and Burlington???
Scott June 07, 2011 at 07:47 PM
There is plenty of vacant space for both retail and entertainment. The village needs more of both, it's not an either or situation. Patchogue is different than Sayville, not every village has to be the same. Another thing with the "drunks" driving down Cedar, how many people who frequent the Patchogue bars and restaurants live down there? Not many if any. Most are coming from out of town, as a result heading East or West on Montauk Highway or North on North Ocean or Waverly.
cassandra house December 16, 2011 at 08:04 PM
1- starbucks is a terrible idea. roast is doing just fine. 2- hibachi place is going to be awesome. i think there are enough choices of restaurants already existing in patchogue ( peruvian, columbian, thai, barbeque, breweries, food bars, wine bars, pubs, steakhouses, etc) & this is a welcome addition to the family. 3-don't hate on the drinkers in this town. they are not just irresponsible people (most of those are actually not from here), they are the working class, the homebrewers, the wine drinkers, the appreciators, the merry. they are the people who pour their good spirit and money into this town & the amount of revenue we see strictly just from beverage sales is not something to scoff at. plus, some people on the board actually make beer for a living. 4- stop praising sayville. that place has more of a secret drinking problem than anywhere (just sayin). the traffic is atrocious pretty much always, and there is some old money that can shop at snooty establishments. good for them. we are not sayville. thank god. yes, i agree, we need a damn clothing store. not burlington, or payless, or rainbow, but somewhere that one can buy a respectable article or accessory as a gift or whatnot and it be made well , but also not cost a fortune. i think a general store maybe featuring handmade artisan crafts would be nice. the vendors @ AA5 & GSBM were awesome, but nowhere to be found without a festival. we need a place all the hip awesome people who live here can shop.


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