Business Owners Mixed On Possible Alive After Five Changes

Some restaurant owners are happy and unhappy with the possible family-oriented shift for Alive After Five, former AA5 coordinator also weighs in.

The recently announced changes to possibly make the Alive After Five summer festivals in Patchogue a more family-oriented affair have brought out a divided opinion among some Patchogue business owners.

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John Peragine, owner of Perabell Food Bar, said that the move to Thursdays coupled with the possibility of not being able to set up beer gardens in the same fashion as in the past makes involvement fiscally unappealing. 

“It’s financially not worth it for me to put 10 more tables outside,” Peragine told Patch. “The money we used for the bands and space was generated from the beer garden; without the beer garden there goes a lot of money for the restaurants.” 

As previously reported, modifications to the beer gardens are being discussed amongst the Greater Patchogue Chamber of Commerce, Patchogue Village and the Suffolk County Police Fifth Precinct, which include possibilities such as ordering drinks inside of a restaurant and then walking with them in a defined area or requiring drinks with table dining or service. 

Peragine said that his restaurant has been involved with Alive After Five, sponsoring one of its stages, since 2006. After moving to their Patchogue Theatre-adjacent location, the restaurant has continued to share a stage sponsorship spot with Public House 49. 

Peragine said that he has not noticed any major safety incidents from Alive After Five that caused a negative impact on his restaurant. 

“The only time it gets a little hairy is that hour after we shut down until the actual road gets up,” Peragine said. During that time he said people are looking for a place to go until they find one. 

Paul DeSimone, owner of Main Street Italian Bistro, had the opposite sentiment from Peragine about the possible changes. 

“It’s not going to affect me, it will actually be better for me,” DeSimone said. “It won’t take away from my Friday business, and I’ll make more money on Thursday.” 

DeSimone also said that a fight involving two revelers broke out in front of his restaurant during last summer’s festival, discouraging his customers. 

“The problem is not the Alive After Five, the problem is people staggering at 9 p.m.,” DeSimone said. 

Tom Keegan, co-owner of Brick House Brewery and a member of the Chamber, said that no matter what shakes out regarding beer gardens, his business will not be affected negatively. 

"If they want wait staff only, we can adjust to that," Keegan said.

He said the restaurant has both the kitchen to do wait service and their own hops garden in the back.

Mindy Skura, owner of Remember Yesteryears and the former coordinator of Alive After Five for the past eight years, wrote a letter posted on Patch with her concerns and discussed how the Chamber financially benefits from the festival.

"While the Chamber's Committees all have their own fund raising events, they are minimal in profit, and that money is used for that Committee to function for that year," Skura wrote. "The Chamber was able to utilize the monies raised from AA5 to grow (ie: help purchase patchogue.com and new computers) and supplement some of their yearly base expenses such as the Executive Director's salary."

Skura writes that there were 35 security guards stationed at the event, and that there were rules already installed at the beer gardens to keep it age appropriate and for drinks to not leave the beer gardens. She also wrote that while she understands both the Village and SCPD's reasons for changing the night, she said that in her opinion the new board is not managing the Chamber as a business.

"But if this event is not in the black, or ceases to exist, the Chamber will once again be scrambling to stay at the break even line. I am not sure if they understand this reality. Every space available needs to be maximized for profitability- this is how the bills get paid," wrote Skura.

What are your thoughts on the possible Alive After Five changes? Add them in the comments.

dan welsch February 25, 2013 at 11:45 AM
Richard, Please don't mention 89 North in the same sentence with other establishments. Police have come to 89N once since it opened and that was because 911 was called because a patron was having a heart attack. At the meeting at the theater some weeks back the cop in charge who was speaking didn't even know where 89N was but he had been to other establishments many times and spoke of them constantly while discussing problems.
Bob Micca February 25, 2013 at 01:30 PM
Dan said: "Richard, Please don't mention 89 North in the same sentence with other establishments. Police have come to 89N once since it opened and that was because 911 was called because a patron was having a heart attack. At the meeting at the theater some weeks back the cop in charge who was speaking didn't even know where 89N was but he had been to other establishments many times and spoke of them constantly while discussing problems." I believe part of the problem of 89 North (Ocean Avenue) receiving mention stems from some an initial memo (from the Village?) informing whomever that AA5 was being shifted to Thursday, and in the memo.. 89 North and Emporium were mentioned by name as (some of the) places whereby people could frequent on Friday in the stead of AA5. Whatever. With that said, I've been to 89 North several times, and have never witnessed anything resembling trouble of any sort whatsoever. 89 North is a well-thought out class act: a fine nightclub; y'all should go at least once.. It's located on the East Side of North Ocean Avenue; Number 89; katty-korner to Reese's..
John Bogack February 25, 2013 at 02:00 PM
I agree with Bob Mica. 89 North represents along with all the venues the incredible evolution towards a regional music scene that Patchogue Village is on a path to becoming a capital of. I think it is good to remember that with all the issues that do exist that over the past few years the village has been blessed with ever evolving options to hear different music in settings that are also getting better and better. And that evolution is far from over too. I would suspect there is more to come and in fact I would hope that one day we will see more venues not less with some greater representation of some music that has not yet been given its full due: and that would be urban soul, latino music of so many different kinds, more house and electronic dance music, jazz and other choices I have left out but that also need some better representation. I really do hope that we can find a way to let the music play and in a way that honors what music is about: goodness on so many levels.
Joseph Adriano February 25, 2013 at 04:36 PM
I think everyone knows that 89 is not the big problem in the Village... I hear the Tikki bar is having the last laugh on the Village and won their case in court....any news on that JB?
Joseph Adriano February 25, 2013 at 04:40 PM
Egan? Isn't this the same dude who gives the Mayor all his bad legal advice. Now he's lost the TIkki case too....maybe he's doing a better job in Mastic Village then he is here in Patchogue. Why did they give this guy a raise???
John Bogack February 25, 2013 at 05:28 PM
Joe, Tikki is far afield from this thread. But you have asked about this twice now. So yes I have heard that the Tikki will be open after all. How that came to be I plan on asking tonight at the Board meeting. Since the village did win the court suit and it was never appealed I have to say I am looking foward to learning how events turned out the way they are alleged to have occurred. I like to deal in facts. For the moment they are missing. When I get them then I can comment on them some more.
Patchogue Snoop February 25, 2013 at 06:32 PM
Don't we have a planning board in the Village????? Ohhh, that's right most of these decisons were made by PPs cousins. Booze=Bucks. Patchogue First? Last? 2012? who what where???? Any one know how many miles on the Mayor's new SUV yet? I see him all over outside the Village, when is the stealing going to end?????
Patchogue Snoop February 25, 2013 at 06:38 PM
John Said: So yes I have heard that the Tikki will be open after all. Come on John.....did you ever doubt it???? You can't let your friends and relatives open up venues against every code in the book just so they can get rich and kickback to Patchogue "Whatever they are now" and who knows what else, and not expect a lawsuit from someone who is denied. These dopes running this Village just don't care anymore, it is all about them, not the Village. Follow the famly names, what they got from this administration, and who much they gained after using their in Village property for profit at the expense of the entire village ie rental slum holes. They only reason you see less of that is they were tapped out sh** Ho**s that were demoed and reconstructed into condo lands or rental apartment complexes providing the owners with a real estate windfall. After all, these good ole boys deserved it. They destroyed the village with rental hosuing and now take a second bite of the apple and get rich form favorable zoning decisions from Gas Can Paulie!
Joseph Adriano February 25, 2013 at 07:33 PM
I heard the court recently ruled against the village...let us know what you find out from that legal beagle Egan...
Al Lofaso February 25, 2013 at 07:43 PM
what a bunch of negative crap. Not so long ago this town was near death. Sometimes change brings unwanted problems. Adjust and keep going forward. I find more people from elsewhere now know about the village in a positive light. As the place to go. Lets not lose that. It good for business and the Value of our real estate. Has anyone notice how dead sayville is and Port jefferson Village?
Patchogue Snoop February 25, 2013 at 09:33 PM
Yeah, good for real estate. I can see it now....showing your home in the summer with "That 70s song blasting in the background". Real good for real estate. There is nothing negative about having your town taken over by a political party that exists and was formed by the good ole boy network here.
Patchogue Snoop February 25, 2013 at 09:37 PM
Lee said: Many people still turn up their noses to Patchogue and associate it with a lot of "low life" on Main Street Absolutely, a true assessment. Take a ride to the east end(not village) and see what wonderful things await you south of Montauk Highway and just follow the parade into the Village. Better yet, go on East Main west of 112 in the early am and take note of dozens emerging from one above store apartment. Makes you wonder where Brookhaven Housing enforcement is....not here I will tell you. Appalling.
Al Lofaso February 25, 2013 at 11:01 PM
Not all of PJvillage is a bed of roses as well. The problem is with Brookhaven town not Patch village. When I dine in the village, I don't see "ALL THE LOW LIFE". what I see is a Busy village, with lots going on. If you want to change Brookhaven Town side, Get involved with East patchogue focus group. They have been instrumental with the tear down of some of the blight. They continue to address the "Low life issue" you elude too. But if you haven't heard, the economy sucks. So, investment is slow in coming. But come it will. Babylon and Bayshore villages went through the same thing.
Bob Micca February 26, 2013 at 01:01 AM
Yes, John, And, Along with Local Talent, Soul, Latin and Country, let's not forget, REGGAE, Mon! MeanWhile, We need some jazz venues which would enable your average non-jazz listener the mind-aural-instructional means by which to begin to learn How To appreciate what's going down within Jazz, Patchogue could easily become the Jazz Capital of Long Island; which, of course, by necessity, solidify its current Almost Music Capital of L.I., NY status..
Richard Kemp February 26, 2013 at 01:16 AM
John: Don't you think that a smart group of leaders on Baker St. would sit down and say "Gee we have got a problem with just what we allowed or permited to be created." If what i'm reading is correct about 89 North they are being tarred with the same brush as the Emporium,and other trouble spots. Which may not be fair.Patchogue needs to enact a moratorium now. You know like they did on the Patchogue River. So that they can get things under control. Indoor self contained music is one thing, but outdoor music to 70 decibels is too much.Soon you will get a chance to check out your new windows,insulation,and sound board.vs outdoor amplified music.
Richard Kemp February 26, 2013 at 01:32 AM
Hey Bob : Sounds lively for sure maybe throw in a comedy club or two and Patchogue will really glow on the map.
Bob Micca February 26, 2013 at 02:33 AM
Some of the larger existing venues in Patchogue could sport a comedy night... ! Beyond.. I always see "promotion" aka "effectively spreading the word" (to what we HAVE here) - as being an area needing _some_ improvement. PLUS? It's good for all venues: be they food, music, stage.. and any combo thereof, to work in co-ordination WITH one another.. Imagine how things shall be WHEN the economy ever goes North? The VILLAGE could delegate some ones.. to collate ALL of Patchogue's Non-Retail ATTRACTIONS.. and place them onto a pretty-looking artistically-created pamphlet-of-sorts.. listing EVERY VILLAGE ATTRACTION - replete with (rough) menus/schedules for the next few months.. AND? At some point soon in time, when all is ready, we call in the NYTIMES.. MSNBC and FOX.. even NEWSDAY... ;o) Think Local. Act Global. +++
David M. February 26, 2013 at 02:11 PM
well said.
Richard Kemp February 27, 2013 at 02:48 AM
Bob: How does this sound in addition to your comments,or thoughts,maybe Jack Krieger,in addition to reading off what will be comming to the P.V. Theatre,as a public duty to all businesses could include their schedule of upcomming events !!!! After all he is a spokesperson and taxpayers should not be forgotten.
Bob Micca February 27, 2013 at 04:54 AM
Sounds like a sensible idea, Richard. If I read you correctly, promotion of all can be disseminated by all. The "trick" in my humble opinion.. is to keep 'it' unwieldly. Perhaps a single sheet of paper .. or one which folds out 4X larger.. with - on one side - a colored map of Patchogue highlighting its main business streets .. like Main, Ocean, Etc., and Etc.. with Location of specified public businesses Noted via Letters and/or Numbers", and on the other side..have rough schedules and highlights of each Noted establishment. Establishments willing to make these handouts available to their clients - get put on the "map"; perhaps for a nominal fee so as to cover the portion of the printing that the Village doesn't cover.. I'm thinking a simplified version of a New Orleans "French Quarter" Map ;o) http://www.geocities.ws/Mardigras411/French_Quarter_Map.jpg
Richard Kemp February 28, 2013 at 01:35 AM
Bob : I think that the Chamber of Commerce might allready have something printed up,I might be wrong. What I was trying to say is In my opinion if Jack Krieger can read off meeting after meeting what show will be playing at the P. Theatre and rarely give any kind of financial report What kind of Trustee is He???? At one time he made a statement that the P.Theatre is only obligated to provide a financial report once a year.!!!!!!!!! A lot can occur in One Year............ As evidenced in the state audit........... As far as reporting for all venues,if he is going to do it just for the P.V. Theatre,why not expand it to all taxpaying buisness owners ?????
Joseph Adriano February 28, 2013 at 07:22 PM
Richard, you won't convince BM he is a good friend of ferbs....and another one with blinders on who won't acknowledge anything "negative" even if it is the truth... Let's look at the definition of "trustee": "An individual or organization which holds or manages and invests assets for the benefit of another. The trustee is legally obliged to make all trust-related decisions with the beneficiary's interests in mind, and may be liable for damages in the event of not doing so." Maybe someone should remind the Deputy Mayor and the other trustees what they are really up there to do: protect the taxpayers. Bunny runs, irish tenors, beer festivals, soda bread contests and charity races might all be great stuff but that is not what trustees were elected to do. They are not PR professionals or event planners, they are legal guardians of our money. That is their #1 responsibility in their office. If you read the results of the NYS audit the answer to your question is clear. What kind of trustee is he? An lousy one. It's called dereliction of duty.
Richard Kemp March 01, 2013 at 12:40 AM
Joe: You hit the nail right on the head. The Village trustee meetings are suppossed to be buisness meetings devoted toward IMPORTANT ISSUES ,including financial issues directly involving P.V. Instead they have turned into social gatherings where you can sing Happy Birthday to the Mayor,or listen to speeches made by Sal N. formerly a P.V. High School Teacher regarding our Mayor. There is way too much baloney going on As far as the state audit I have only spent the time to read up to pg.5 or 6 all of which are concentrated about theft occurring from P.V. Hall and what should be done about it.including a policy to prevent theft in the future. Have you seen any new policy instituted??? In regards to what did occur at P.V. Hall from what I have read Partial Restituion has been made to the Village,in addition because the Village did not fire this person. This person is entitled to some type of pension or retirement benefit whenever and where ever they are.
Bob Micca March 01, 2013 at 01:27 AM
Joseph Adriano said: "Richard, you won't convince BM he is a good friend of ferbs....and another one with blinders on who won't acknowledge anything "negative" even if it is the truth..." Joe.. <DELETED> Your asinine logic - replete with falsities - reflects why you run after lost causes? Bob Micca
Patchogue Snoop March 01, 2013 at 01:13 PM
What about "gas can" Paulie. This guy is a petty thief, He has been stealing for many decades and I can list all in minute detail but this village is no longer a place I call home. I am appalled by what is going on here and even more appalled at the fact no prosecutor seems to care. This is the standard of the day.....anyone hear what is going on with the "big" investigation of Sheldon Silver and his cover-up of the rape of young Albany female interns...hmmm sound familiar.. a patten in the DEM party?
Bob Micca March 01, 2013 at 04:25 PM
I'm neither a registered Dem nor a registered Repub. Ergo, I can anything I damn please about either of those two parties with perfect aplomb. Over-indulgence in political back-and-forth tends to bring out the goat in me. It's depressing once you come to see that most "sides" are not free from sin. Harping on gasoline failed last time around? That says something about what the voters are really concerned about? Don't like this town? Constructively I say, if that were my unchangeable lot, I'd be seeking to leave this town for greener pastures somewhere else. I'm not married to any particular location. I've lived in over a dozen places and, in spite of its imperfections, I like what the bright side of Patchogue has to offer. Back in the day when there were weekly village meetings, I used to go virtually every week. Wild West Days, they were. Today? I'll offer Ideas in various venues - such as this blog; and, I'll never ever lose sleep any more over politics. And, Yes!__I do Vote,_And, I EnJoy Life; but definitely not necessarily in that order. :o)
Scotty March 24, 2013 at 11:20 PM
Jazz! and SMOOTH Jazz! --and I'M on board. Now you're speaking my language. With the demise of IMAC in Huntington along with the only jazz station in NYC we could still hear out here on Long Island we're so deprived of the kind of music and artists we've been dying to go to see for years, now: Peter White, Rick Braun, Dave Koz, etc. They have a HUGE following on Long Island but no one's yet stepped up to the plate to allow these artists to play anywhere out here. They'll come: Peter's made it clear his Annual Christmas Show with Rick Braun and Mindi Abair would gladly come back if invited and the Guitars and Saxes tour too with Gerald Albright, Jeff Golub and Kirk Whalum, et al would put us on the list. Patchogue could be THE focus of Jazz on Long Island..what a great idea!
Scotty March 24, 2013 at 11:21 PM
What? Are you for or against beer? Your comment is contradictory.
Bob Micca March 26, 2013 at 03:29 AM
@ Scotty.. Yes.. With a bit of effort - even on the part of Jazz musicians - your average Music-Loving Jill and Joe can receive some necessary Verbal & Aural educational instruction introductions - into learning HOW to appreciate Jazz Music AS WELL AS the v. high level of musicianship existing within the Jazz Community. JUST AS it takes awhile to learn HOW TO appreciate so-called "classical" music.. so too with Jazz.. .and, due to its generally sense of a "looser" structure.. Jazz needs to be eased into the minds of newbies so that they have something to hold onto.. Once a larger % of the masses achieves said necessary beginners level of appreciation of what's going down, Jazz Music on LI - should finally take off to the cloud which it rightfully deserves..
Roger Passero July 11, 2013 at 09:31 AM
As an owner of a Patchogue business (Mother's Movies on S. Ocean ave.), I say we should have them (alive After 5) 6 months a year! The kind of traffic that is seen at my store during these events is staggering. It is the only time a lot of these people even come into the village. Today people have many choices of where to spend their dollars. Maybe I'm exaggerating but people don't know what new things are in the village if they never go there to know. Alive After Five brings people to the village. Then they return at later dates to patronize the merchants. I have gotten many new customers this way. Otherwise they never even know what is in town.


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