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Blog Recap: Patchogue Village Election Debate

Real-time coverage of the Patchogue Patch Village Election Debate.

Live blogging from the 's D’Ecclesiis Auditorium in O’Connor Hall as the candidates for Patchogue Village mayor and trustee positions debate the issues ahead of next Tuesday's election.

Elvis Presley March 16, 2012 at 09:53 PM
I hope everyone is smart and is not posting with your real name. If mcguire gets in as mayor she will be in bed with the mayor. Everyone who is bashing her will be very very sorry. This is not a conspiracy, this is not a joke. The mayor and judge are going to be in bed with eachother. They are taking names! If mc.guire gets in im moving out of the village.
Andy Miller March 16, 2012 at 10:02 PM
Tim, McGuire is not in office yet. You say she is messing up? How? Yes, she is happy this administration is FINALLY looking at cost savings now that they are no longer running unopposed. Thank God for this election and people like McGuire, McGiff and Residents First for bringing these issues to light. Without them we would never even know what is going on with our tax dollars.
aaron russo March 16, 2012 at 11:44 PM
Do You Actually Think They Would Let Evans Get In And Change Things. Just Deal With It, We Will Never Get Change In Our Village. Let them be kings, as long as we can put food on our table and we love our family that what matters.
Lee March 17, 2012 at 12:42 AM
Liz McGuire is refined and soft spoken. Those of you who have not encountered this phenomenon before should get out more with "the educated". Our elected officials should not carry on like lunatics nor should they mumble.
jimmy murphy March 17, 2012 at 12:45 AM
Sorry Jen you got the wrong murphy. I live an alternative life style. I am not at all athletic and am a village resident. A cur you say? No, it is Evans that is for the dogs. That man has a rap sheet that is 2.2 square miles long.
alex March 17, 2012 at 12:58 AM
No Jimmy We Got The Right Guy. We Were Not Sure Who That Woman Was, Your Beard Were Thinking Now.
florence casey March 17, 2012 at 01:33 AM
My goodness, Tim! You sound as uneducated as you write. Your critical thinking skills, grammar skills, and your spelling skills are as despicable as the criminal record of Mr. Evans.
Fugu Maki March 17, 2012 at 01:52 AM
But, he didn't even say he would spend his own money, which he clearly is, I just clicked a google ppc... So he filed a paper with omissions or lies, I guess.
Fugu Maki March 17, 2012 at 01:55 AM
"...half of America gets in trouble when they are teenagers." That is like a kid with substance abuse issues who thinks "everyone" is doing it, it is just not true.
Fugu Maki March 17, 2012 at 01:59 AM
Well, clearly these are not light charges, I wonder what his parents had to pay for attorney fees... quite a lot of pizzas I would guess.
TIm March 17, 2012 at 03:06 AM
lol I'm well educated but, thanks for the feedback. I was writing fast while working. While we are on the topic, after listening to Pontieri and McGuire speak last night are you also assuming they are uneducated? The both fumbled their words, didn't have clear thoughts and seemed unprepared. Part Time officials have been receiving health benefits for a number of years. McGuire and her team new this and took part in it. Now she wants to "discuss" it? lol Sounds like McGuire and her team are stealing from the residents.
Tom Olsen March 17, 2012 at 01:23 PM
Residents First has made numerous promises: lower taxes, restore integrity, stop 291 apartments and forge a better plan, televise board meetings, increase recyclable pickups, better utilize our theater and parks. The only thing Pontieri has promised is to advance the Tritec plan that no one wants. The choice is clear. Vote Residents First
Diane A March 17, 2012 at 02:36 PM
For what it's worth, I used to own a house in Bellport. I sold it and am now a very happy renter in Patchogue. Owning isn't the answer for everyone, as much as some people keep harping that it is. It's not. And, having a good rental base, rather than a bunch of ugly basement apartments or illegal conversions, the rental developments here in Patchogue have been fabulous. And, I'm sure it's not just me saying that. And, even if rental is a step towards that goal of ownership, that's a good thing, too. It gives people choices. Since I've been in Patchogue since 1991, I've seen this community go up with Mayor Keegan, then down with Mayor Ihne, and now back up, which is where we are now, thanks to Mayor Pontieri. Is he perfect? No. But, no one is. Can you find fault with everyone? Absolutely. This village does not need a change to some empty rhetorical nonsense about jobs and renting and owning and what have you. It needs downtown development. It needs a park or town square, where people can go and enjoy shopping, music, coffee, play time, and just people. That's where I see that Mayor Pontieri has taken us, so far. Is it perfect? No. Will it ever be? Probably not. But, let's be realistic folks. Downtown needs people, both who live here and who work here. Happily, I both live and work in the village. I consider myself to be quite lucky. So, I'm keeping it where it's at, and supporting Mayor Pontieri's reelection.
Carole J.Amodeo March 17, 2012 at 02:47 PM
AMEN , AMEN DIANE ,WOW,ARTICULATELY PUT AND THE TRUTH!!!! THANK YOU!!!!!
Henry L. March 17, 2012 at 05:20 PM
McGuire should stick with robbing people selling Jewelry and stop robbing this Village! She said "im glad we are discussing it now" when asked about part time elected officials taking health benefits. She is a moron. Im going on 32 years in Patchogue and have never seen a bigger moron then her. McGuire has NO GUTS, NO IDEAS & wants to be a part time mayor. Stick to selling charms and bracelets. Plus, We don't need a Mayor who is married to a judge anyway. Pacthogue is trying to get rid of corruption not to keep it going
jimmy murphy March 17, 2012 at 06:47 PM
How ironic that you call Mrs. McGuire a thief. Unlike Evans, Mrs. McGuire does not have a criminal record that includes two counts of burglary. And isn't the mayor under investigation?
Doug March 17, 2012 at 08:14 PM
I was arrested 2x in college. Once while at Duke and again during Med School. Jimmy, my past mistakes doesn't make me any less competent at doing my job. I ultimately chose Oncology after watching my grandfather die from lung cancer. I've had many people influence me in my life. Some good, some bad. You learn from your mistakes and weed out the negative influence. You cant inform people of your cause or message by tearing others down. Put out a positive message or idea. Don't be a cancer! This is a great country with empathetic people. You yourself might be in a situation one day and rely on the empathy of others.
Lee March 18, 2012 at 04:02 PM
When Mr. Pontieri and the trustees were voted into office eight years ago their salaries were low. I imagine that they all thought, "OK the salary is low for all of the time and work I have to give to this job, but health insurance makes it worth while!" Unless they already had insurance, they probably thought that this perk was GREAT! We are imperfect human beings, not saints, and this is a normal human reaction. Health insurance is not illegal. HOWEVER, when they gave themselves better salaries, then the cost of BOTH, good salaries and health insurance, became too much for our village. Why did the mayor allow this? Why is HE only bringing it up NOW, during the campaign? He should have dealt with when the salaries were increased. I too am "glad that we are discussing this now"! It' better now than never. Again, health insurance is not illegal but, with our bad economy, it does have to be discussed now!
Lee March 18, 2012 at 05:04 PM
My main issue is still the 291 rentals. Apartments are NOT a business plan. No matter how I try to be loyal to the shops in the village, I can't do all of my shopping there. I look for sales on food, clothing, and household items. Five hundred new residents in the 291 apartments will do the same. I believe that these apartments are work force rentals, not luxury apartments. Nobody has a lot of disposable income. Our village ALONE cannot support the shops, even with five hundred new residents. THEREFORE, we need people from outside of the village to shop here. Plenty of people visit our restaurants at night. If they see "ten" more inviting new shops when they are here at night, they will return during the daytime. Our business plan has to be to attract more shops. This has to come FIRST. This has to be where our elected officials have to concentrate their energy and incentives FIRST.
Jo Miller March 18, 2012 at 10:56 PM
Whether Richard Evans has a criminal background is beside the point. He does not have the qualilfications to be Mayor, so end of story. There are more important issues to focus on. No matter who becomes mayor, the village needs a master plan . We have no master plan and therefore no marketing strategy. Anyone who waves investment dollars in front of us is welcomed with open arms regardless of the long term implications. Nowhere is this more evident than along the river where unplanned development has resulted in traffic litter noise and misery for riverfront residents but properity for bar, restaurant and nightclub owners.
Zofia Malisiewicz March 19, 2012 at 04:11 AM
This election is definitely blessing for our Village, I must say. Many of us taxpayers didnt have a clue why the taxes have been going up so drastically. It is great awakening for plenty of us. We gave our trust to the Mayor and just paid our taxes. You are right Andy.
Zofia Malisiewicz March 19, 2012 at 04:48 AM
I live on Bay Ave. My taxes went up from $1435.00 in 2002 to $2722.05 in 2011. I understand that this year tax will be increased around 6% . Help me to do mathematics. I dont bring home almost twice more now than in 2002. As I am taking a walk along Bay Ave, I am asking myself "where is my money, honey?".
Concerned Resident March 19, 2012 at 05:23 AM
You would know if you went to a board meeting, a tax grievance night or FOILED the info. Everything is available to the residents. All you have to do is ask.
Christie March 19, 2012 at 01:39 PM
When you give a tax abatement (which is used to attract) to a business/corporation they do not have to pay taxes for "X" amount of years to the county, town, village, school district, library and so on. When it is a business it is not that bad other than you are not getting any funds to cover the additional stress on your infrastructure. When it is housing the real stress falls on the school district. Whether it is 3, 33 or 133 children coming out of the proposed housing the district is not getting funds to cover the cost of services for these additional students. Now look at your tax bill and tell me where do you pay the most taxes? Now your infrastructure in my opinion is stressed to the max in the Village. You have bumper to bumper traffic at 5:15pm on Waverly Ave. and bumper to bumper on route 112 and also on Main Street and you are going to add 291 apartments right on the 4 corners bringing in even more stress without changing any surrounding roads. In the end if you believe that 291 apartments and the extra taxes and inconvenience it will cause all of us then vote for Patchogue 2012 but if you think that the residents of this community should been given the opportunity for a look at some other ideas that might not be a tax burden or cause more inconvenience and stress to the village residents than vote for Residents First.
Fugu Maki March 19, 2012 at 11:50 PM
Anyone with half a brain knows he is a shill just by his, and his "supporter's" constant attacks on Residents First. Unless of course, he is a complete idiot and he is oblivious to the fact that he has 2 opponents.
Judy Pepenella March 20, 2012 at 02:04 AM
Both good & bad issues come to the surface during an election. I think that is a good thing as well. Concerned Resident posted that you could learn more if you went to some of the meetings (board & tax grievance night) or you can foil (FOIA/Freedom of Information Act) information from Village Hall. However, from what I have been hearing from residents, they TRUSTED those in office, including the Mayor, to do what was CORRECT for the residents not for their own personal use. Many are outraged at some of the issues that have come out during the election, many more are so fed up that they just want a new board to see what they can do to fix the current mess. As for attending meetings, there is another problem. Many people have said they are too busy trying to stay afloat financially here in Patchogue; working 2 jobs or splitting shifts with their partners. I spent a few weeks walking the neighborhoods NOT with a campaign, but as a resident asking questions of my fellow neighbors. The top list of complaints are as follows: Taxes (150% increase in the past 8 years-where IS the money going); 291 Apartments (too much high density housing units & traffic in village); quality of life (or lack there) & the need for more businesses & jobs in the community. This is not my opinion, but the opinion of the many residents I spoke with. In my humble opinion, the winners best listen to the residents who pay their salaries & benefits over outside influences.
Marilyn Monroe March 20, 2012 at 08:01 AM
Does everyne not remeber that McGuire was once in office and was NOT re elected? Gee I wonder why that was?
Marilyn Monroe March 20, 2012 at 08:06 AM
I just hate all the problems that Gerry Crean and Steve McGiff have caused this whole campaign. And to think that they proudly served under the Mayor and helped him get re elected the last time around. If they thought they could do a better job how come one of them isn't running for the top spot?
DONT VOTE FOR McGUIRE March 20, 2012 at 05:46 PM
THIS WAS A DIRTY RACE. MCGUIRE TURNS MY STOMACH. PLEASE VOTE FOR ANYONE BUT MCGUIRE. SHE CANT RUN A CAMPAIGN ETHICALLY, HOW WILL SHE BE ABLE TO RUN A VILLAGE ETHICALLY?
Fugu Maki March 20, 2012 at 06:53 PM
The Patchogue12/Evans crew is really sounding desperate now. I think most people have their minds made up by now. Residents First not more residents.

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