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Parking Meters Coming To Patchogue Village Late-Summer

Meters to be installed in August, in operation in September.

Patchogue Village Hall. Photo Credit: Dan Bruno
Patchogue Village Hall. Photo Credit: Dan Bruno
Parking meters will be returning to Patchogue Village as early as September, as the Patchogue Village Board of Trustees unanimously approved a bid for parking meters during Tuesday’s Patchogue Village Board of Trustees meeting at Patchogue Village Hall.

The parking meters would be placed at Main Street, South Ocean Avenue and Church Street parking lots. The meters would be high-tech, in that they would be networked via cellular internet connection, and customers can pay for parking from the machine as well as from a cell phone, said Gerry Giosa of Level G Parking Consultants. The meters are also solar powered and wireless.

An estimate for 22 multispace meters is costing the Village $256,440 as part of a five-year lease, and Giosa said it was estimated to bring the Village $500,000 in revenue every year. Following the lease, the Village will likely then own the parking meters.

Giosa said that the company that won the bid estimates to have the meters ready as early as August 16, which is 17 days earlier than a target date of Sept. 3. Deputy Mayor Jack Krieger told Patch after the meeting that while the meters will likely be installed in August, that they probably would start operation after the Labor Day weekend.

The Village is still discussing how the meters would be run, but it was tentatively mentioned that charges would not start at most meters until 6 p.m. However, the possibility of charging parking on Main Street all day long was also mentioned. Krieger told Patch after the meeting that a commission of people still to be determined will figure out what should be the parking rates and operation periods.

Possible fees were not discussed. Also not confirmed is whether or not Village residents would have to pay any fees. When the topic was discussed in November, it was said that Village residents would be able to obtain a sticker and park for free. While that may change, there will still be free parking areas such as the Terry Street parking lot. Giosa presented that businesses should have the option of paying parking fees for their customers, should they want to keep them from leaving their store or restaurant in order to pay the meter.

Patchogue Village Mayor Paul Pontieri said in November that revenue from parking meters would help expand parking lots.

“It will give us funds that we need to purchase properties and to create more parking because we are tight,” Pontieri said in November.

The meters currently at the Patchogue Long Island Rail Road station would also be converted to the new system.

Parking meters previously were on Main Street in Patchogue Village, and Krieger said they were removed around 1998.

The meters were approved by a 5-0 vote, trustee Gerard Crean was absent.

What are your thoughts on parking meters returning to Patchogue Village? Talk about it in the comments.
Robert Garcia May 29, 2013 at 01:51 PM
Should read "more. Power to them". Darn iPad.
crankpaul May 29, 2013 at 02:50 PM
The meters were removed years ago in an attempt to keep shoppers coming to the village instead of heading to malls. Given the increase in the village businesses, even if they are mostly eateries and pubs, gives the village people the opportunity to install meters and charge for parking. While I can empathize with the naysayers to an extent, since the meters can be controlled down to the minute of the day and day of the week they can be custom tailored to the demand. On the other hand if they aren't easy to understand people may be getting tickets because they can tell if they should have paid because it was a special occasion or not.
Archie Bunker May 29, 2013 at 03:47 PM
Someone was debating me the other day on how the new Target and other "big box" stores hurt the villages. Well not only are mom and pop stores becoming a thing of the past because of the mark ups, I am very positive that someone running out to pick up a few things will be less likely to want to go into the village to contend with parking. And I'd like to add that the more "state of the art" and the more technological the meters which can be accessed via cell phone, more people will need to learn to use them and the more people will be intimidated by them. I just don't know if Patchogue has the charm and attraction that say a Port Jeff does and gets away with widespread parking meters. Most people do not come and spend the day in Patchogue Village and this may very well become the thing that makes one just drive a few miles east or west to another restaurant in a surrounding area. If people can't be bothered parking in the lots in Oak and Terry, do you think they are going to get out of their cars in search of the boxes to enter their parking spaces and pay? Hopefully people will be outraged when the village decides to take these meters out after and spending all this money to install them because they realize this is a huge mistake.
Michael A Evans LMT May 29, 2013 at 05:32 PM
Mighty kind of them to suggest my business can pay for my customers. If they charge even a dollar an hour, that will increase my monthly expenses by nearly 100%; though I can't even start trying to adjust my budget or make even short range plans until they decide what the fees will be. My solution will be to increase parking availability and decrease my bottom line by moving out of the Village.
SoMo May 29, 2013 at 05:35 PM
No parking meters in Sayville so that's where you'll be able to find me and my $$$
majortom1981 May 29, 2013 at 08:34 PM
I am a Patchogue Medford resident who goes to the village a lot. For all of the people complaining have you ever seen port Jefferson village? They have meters ALL DAY and the lots are still full. All this will do is add money to the village. If this means more parking available for me then fine. I do not think businesses will lose customers.
SoMo May 30, 2013 at 09:48 AM
majortom19814 - do you really think Patchogue is in the same league as Port Jeff? You are delusional if you don't think this will impact biz
Michael A Evans LMT May 30, 2013 at 10:13 AM
Pt Jeff is also a far more expensive place to lease a retail property, and more expensive to shop/eat. I doubt parking meters will kill Patchogue, but it certainly won't be positively received. At least not until the proposed properties are purchased and developed as additional lots. Because, of course, government always limits use of new revenue to the original marketing scheme with which they get a tax approved. I am also sure that the meters will go away once the new lots are built, since they are only installing them to pay for new parking lots. Further, I saw this really cool bridge for sale with views of lower Manhattan.
jared May 30, 2013 at 10:15 AM
Lmao who would go to sayville over patchogue? What is there even to do in sayville... The meters suck but it's life, park on a side street. Or park behind the courts. People are lazy and don't want to walk from parking lots to where they have to go. I again tout I have never had a problem finding a spot and im in the village every fri and sat night. The parking will be the same price as taking a cab both ways ( I close to downtown) so all it will do is make me change my habits from driving to cabbing it
jared May 30, 2013 at 10:16 AM
I live close I meant
John Bogack May 30, 2013 at 10:45 AM
Mike I doubt that the meters will ever go away. A minimal estimate for revenue is a half million dollars a year. Once that revenue stream flows unless that estimate is way off it will be hard to damn because over time the village government will become dependent on it as revenue source. Among other things it will reduce the need to raise village taxes. Plus whatever the rate is set today do not expect it to remain there forever. It will become a temptation to raise fees over time to fund whatever demands exist for more money whether to buy land for parking lots or any number of other legitimate needs the village does or will face over time. Also passed at the last Board meeting was something far less noticed but important: as businesses build up in the D3 zone, from a point in the future still not voted on, they are going to have to pay to play so to speak. For example the Public House is in the process of obtaining approval to built a second floor roof deck. I believe it will fit 185 new customers. Under the present law, just like the Emporium, the owners do not have to show they have enough new parkng to meet this new customer total. Add to that the Village Idiot expanding, Tap room has added an outdoor deck space, add to that rumored second floor deck for Pera Bella. These businesses are taking advantage of the booming main street. They should. But it is going to add more people and cars. So, and this was just briefly discussed, looks like these owners and others like them over time will have to pay into the general fund some extra money to the village for this privilege something no one has to do now. I did hear that for example those funds could be used to pay for parkng lots. The discussion of this change is ahead and more details will surface. But clearly, with the meters and this new zoning change that represents a new cost to do business, revenue sources are being amassed to buy land for lots, spruce up main street even further, increase lighting to make it safer at night, surveillance cameras possibly for the same reason, maybe even rest rooms. Lots of items on a wish list there. The meters are here for good and this is only the beginning of changes. Remember, the revitalization of the village has only begun: much is still to come.
Merrick7 May 30, 2013 at 01:40 PM
the meters make sense they were only removed when the village was decaying and lacked business as stores boarded up. Now the main street is thriving so the meters return. And the commentary that the taxes are very high in the village. I am curious compared to what? What I am asking are the taxes high compared to other Long Island villages? Are they high compared to other villages providing similar services? What are the average taxes and how much are they compared to the average Brookhaven township taxes?
John Bogack May 30, 2013 at 02:03 PM
Merrick7 this is what I know about my village taxes. I don't know about yours since it is not clear whether you live in the village or not. Several years ago I started paying more in village taxes than I do for the Town of Brookhaven. The village services that I do get that are worth it to me are garbage pickup and snow removal from village roads. For quality of life issues that affect me: noise being number one I get nothing for the taxes that I spend except constant excuses for why things can not be done or done so slowly that by the time they do get done it hardly even matters anymore. We have had ten years of tax increases. The tax cap probably saved us from even more but the village has been using surplus savings to keep the tax rate down the last two years. That works but not exactly a long range solution because that well can only be tapped for so long. As for all your other questions regarding compare and contrasting rates I admit I do not know. Sounds like an interesting project for you the results of which you could then share with us all. Our taxes are too high in my humble opinion and I do not believe that the village government is taking every step to keep them down. For example while regular rank and file workers are being held to a two percent raise several attorneys for the village had their rates boosted from 150 or 175 dollars AN HOUR to 200 hundred dollars an hour. Basis for increase: they were overworked. Wow that is really holding the line on taxes wouldn't you agree? Now that I think of it maybe we need to raise those parking meter fees now to pay for the next round of attorney raises while rates are being set for the future.
Merrick7 May 30, 2013 at 02:18 PM
John sorry I should have clarified. I am not a resident of Patchogue. I am a resident of Merrick (unincorporated) in Nassau County. I was just curious what residents meant by the taxes being too high. Thanks for the clarification though
Michael A Evans LMT May 31, 2013 at 10:44 AM
So here's a question, and I am not trying to sound disparaging, rather I am genuinely curious. John Bogack mentioned a few services that village taxes pay for (garbage collection, snowmremoval, etc). I live in Holtsville, and get these same services. Is your share of the Brookhaven tax lower than mine since the Village provides these services? And overall, what benefit does living in an incorporated village provide, other than perhaps general beautification projects? I've never lived in any of the Island's incorporated villages, so I just don't know, but from the outside it looks like just another layer of beaurocracy and taxation.
Michael Leaning May 31, 2013 at 11:32 AM
Mr. Evans, I've actually wondered this myself. I do have to say that the garbage and snow removal is FANTASTIC. We often joke how the snow just stops at the village border. Even during the hurricane last year, the village debris was removed in a very reasonable amount of time. I too would like to know if we do get any off-set from Town taxes for the services provided by the village. Although I'm sure the cost of this is not going to be in the hundreds of dollars, it should be reduced somewhat, no? Maybe the Town's stance is "take it or leave it" but you have to pay either way. Just guessing...
Michael A Evans LMT May 31, 2013 at 11:54 AM
I heard the same about clean up times in the village. I guess there is something to be said about local people taking care of local issues; they have a personal invesment.
Joe May 31, 2013 at 12:21 PM
So as the Jersey Barriers say "Welcome to the New Patchogue".
John Bogack May 31, 2013 at 01:00 PM
ML: as far as I know Brookhaven taxes are offset and are reduced for Patchogue Village Residents since the village has its own garbage removal service. Village residents do not pay twice for garbage removal costs. Up until recently Brookhaven Town used to reimburse the village for snow removal but has stopped doing that. Mr Evans: some damn good questions. Why pay for a village and pay an extra layer of taxes? Indeed as far as I know if the village was abolished Town taxes would increase only to the level to pay for garbage services. And here of course is the main question. Is it worth it to have a village government otherwise. I do not believe that is an open and shut answer. On the one hand it is probably true that without the village government the hundreds of millions of dollars of private and public grant monies that have flowed into the village may not have occurred if we were just another hamlet in competition with every other area in the town for resources. Having our own village government allowed Patchogue Village to put its interests first. So on a global scale I think it has been beneficial to have a village government: revitalization of the village may not have occurred at all. Yet it has been a pretty one sided revitalization from my perspective. Some are getting wealthy, most have not found any improvement in their neighborhoods as business interests have gotten the lion's share of attention and care. Quality of life issues, peace and quiet when you get home, has really suffered. I have seen example after example of a two tier system of justice in the village. Piss on a sidewalk and justice is swift and harsh. Own a tikki bar and it can take months if not years to get a penalty if you do get one at all if your club is too loud or otherwise a nuisance. Millions of dollars pouring into the village but all those sales taxes going to Suffolk County and NY State, none to the village. Millions being spent in the village with minimum wage jobs for wait staff while owners most probably have to struggle with remembering which swiss bank account they put their profits into. Village officials all too often in thrall with those with money and not so allied with working class folk when interests clash. I would not abolish the village despite all of that but I would be a lot happier if the village represented the interests of common folk the same way it has the Tritec corporation and other like interests. And that is an argument for keeping a village government actually: easier to exert democratic will to elect officials who will bring about a revitalization not just for some but for all.
Dennis Barone June 01, 2013 at 05:54 PM
The meters were removed to embellish the experience in this village....now they are back...anyway pontieri can squeeze the sponge he will...I will not spend money in this village...and neither should anyone else if the meters are removed
Dennis Barone June 01, 2013 at 05:56 PM
Sorry ....it should read UNTIL the meters are removed
Robert Garcia June 01, 2013 at 11:30 PM
I thought so Den lol.
Patchogue Snoop June 09, 2013 at 08:57 AM
Yeah, squeeze the sponge. He is nothing more than a petty thief feeding his bloated belly. Our taxes go up and he buys a 30k suv for his personal use with Village taxpayer dollars! Oink Oink.
Patchogue Snoop June 09, 2013 at 09:03 AM
John...well said! Bravo. You were very kind in your analysis. I could add more to that but will refrain for now. One thing, we pay much more for garbage than Brookhaven residents. You know the answer for that. Our road are in shambles, we have a new hack running the Public Works department. An added position by the mayor. Over 100k + cadillac benefits. Experience none. Good gig if you can get it. This is not the Foreman I am speaking of, he is a great employee and always has been.
Patchogue Snoop June 09, 2013 at 09:06 AM
Mr Learning, Are you a village resident? The garbage pick is average. It is easy to have great snow clean up when you ignore any budgetary constraints and stick the taxpayer with the massive overtime bill!!!!!! Sleep on straight time, work on OT. Where is Spota?
Michael Leaning June 09, 2013 at 09:37 AM
Snoop, It is "Leaning", and yes, I am a village resident. I'm assuming you are as well, since you are satisfied with the way snow removal is handled here. How does removing snow during OT make removal better??? I don't know where you've lived in the past, but I think garbage pickup is pretty spectacular in comparison to other hamlets I've lived in the past; babylon, medford.
Patchogue Snoop June 10, 2013 at 08:05 AM
Read my post again. I don't know how you can call garbage pick up spectacular? I put my cans out front once in awhile. Now that I do that, they never ever pick it up if I don't put it out. Common sense if it is not out, pick it up on the side of my house. I pay dearly for the side pick up here. Over 3000 in property taxes. For what? Terrible roads, my block is falling apart and very dangerous. Mayor stealing from us, gasoline theft, fraudulent sale of his clapped out 1995 explorer to the Village for tens times its book value, funding a 30k SUV for the mayors personal use, hiring his relatives and buddies. No zoning rules for his relatives, pals and donors. Yest our DA sits on his butt and does nothing. Hmmm.
Patchogue Snoop June 10, 2013 at 08:08 AM
Funny, the Mayor allows his pals who own Lindy's taxi to park in the public spaces. Why?
Michael Leaning June 10, 2013 at 08:59 AM
That is some information! If you can share some proof, it would be an interesting news article on this website. Please share more info.
Dennis Barone June 10, 2013 at 02:15 PM
Snoop... with the exception of the garbage pick up and snow removal which I think is great, I agree with you totally...

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