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Reader Feedback: New State Gun Law

Patchogue Patch readers share their thoughts on the state's new gun legislation.

Gov. Andrew Cuomo signed the New York Secure Ammunition and Firearms Enforcement Act (NY SAFE Act) on Tuesday as state lawmakers tightened up gun regulations in the wake of the Newtown shooting.

The measure expands the state’s ban on assault weapons and strengthens guidelines to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally ill. It also limits the size of gun magazines to seven rounds, down from a limit of 10. 

We asked our Facebook fans how they felt about the new gun law. Here's what they had to say (be sure to add your own thoughts on the topic in the comment section below this article):   

Steve Walters: Such a mistake gun control is proven to be ineffective at curbing violent crime.

Rob Vazquez: Strict gun laws keep guns out of the wrong hands, look at Chicago. Oops wait...

Wendy Blake: It's foolish. Criminals will get guns regardless of laws. Crazy people too. If someone is determined there is always a way. These laws only limit law abiding citizens. It does nothing to stop those who are not. Way to screw with the Constitution.

Gibrila Z Banse: Try pouring more money back into the states mental health system. This is just a bandaid. Gun, knife or bat the problem of mentally ill people roaming the streets undiagnosed still remains.

Sean Brown: People don't understand what government gun control means. Its a method for them to control the people. The more control we give up, the easier it is for them to take whatever liberties they please. People ask why the need for 30 round magazines. I'll tell you...because the government has fully automatic weapons with 30 round magazines!

Steve Walters: I don't own an assault weapon I own an AR-15 it's a defensive weapon. With the proper ammo it's excellent for self defense. It's also used in several of the shooting sports including one of the highest pursed matches in the world. There are many reasons to have many guns one for each purpose.

Ruben Santos Jr: There are way to many weapons out there already.....However, there should be some measures taken.... Assault weapons should at the least require special registrations and permits....

Robert F Edwards January 16, 2013 at 05:20 PM
This whole behind the doors hurry up and push it thru legislation is nothing but a way for Cuomo to prepare his political run at the Presidency! NYS gun laws were already the toughest in the country and we all know how gun -violence free New York is! What a joke this state is.
Peg Koller January 16, 2013 at 05:45 PM
an assault weapon, to me, is a weapon of mass destruction.. might as well give a person a bomb.. should we have a "right" to own them as well? We need, for our children, to change the mindset of our people to one that says.. "Killing is bad.." We need to stop glorifying arms as a right...
Darren January 16, 2013 at 07:11 PM
You now have reclassified 7-8 hundred thousand people from legitimate citizens to common criminals .You now have your DOCTOR/PATIENT confidentiality totally removed by the state of NEW YORK.Not bad for gun "''CONTROL"" I guess he will figure out a way to confiscate everyones weapons later.. By banning Low capacity magazines I see the Armed Robbers will feel a sign of relief ,but the shredding of everyones rights so King Andy can say he saved the day is what this true administration is all about..If my memory serves me correctly the'"GET OUT OF NEW YORK BEFORE ITS TOO LATE"was started under King Andys father Mario.But I would have hoped the kid was a little different,So much for hope and change The true happenings that went down behind closed doors in the middle of the night are posted on State Rep Lee Zeldon and State Rep AL Graf press releases on the patch I would say hold on to what you legitimately purchased if legal at that time I 've never seen gun control bring such a angry rise as this .
Darren January 16, 2013 at 08:08 PM
If my memory serves me correctly the "GEY OUT OF NEW YORK BEFORE ITS TOO LATE" was started under King Andy's fathers tenure Mario.I was hoping the kid was different from his dad but I was wrong..If you wanted to be ruled by a dictator I would say elect king Andy to the job .BUT I want a democracy so I don't think this guy is all he is cut out to be. All this law did was piss off a lot of people
Darren January 16, 2013 at 08:19 PM
Hi peg , Could you explain to me the difference between A rifle ,an assault weapon and A weapon of mass destruction,It sounds like you bunched them all together as one item,but thats OK because you have the right to feel that way but "owning firearms arms are a right" and you have to respect peoples rights even if you don't agree with them.You might want to do your research
Archie Bunker January 16, 2013 at 09:46 PM
Most crimes involving handguns are not because of movies, video games, "mindset", or right to bear arms. We used to have mental institutions. We don't, we now have "effective" medicine to treat mental disorders. We have to hope the ill patients take those meds though. And there is no place to confine them for serious treatment. Mas murders with guns are done by insane, mentally ill, fanatical, etc. Mentally healthy people are able to discern between Call of Duty video games and reality. I think all hand gun crimes committed with legal guns is less than 1%. Changing clip sizes from 10-7 bullets, calling something an assault weapon isn't going to stop a mentally ill person from killing. We are not having and open honest debate here... We are acting on political ambitions and with band aids.
Edward Smith January 17, 2013 at 04:47 PM
Gun owners should not have the right to own guns secretly. All gun ownership should be public knowledge. Therefore we have to insist that all guns be registered to their owners, and transferring ownership should be the same as selling a car, that is to say paperwork should be involved. We track pharmacies, we track automobile, it's time we tracked guns.
Archie Bunker January 17, 2013 at 06:29 PM
Guns are not owned secretly. Each time you buy one, the FBI conducts a background check and the serial number is recorded with the law. The new law now makes background checks required if the sale/transfer goes through a private dealer. So it's not "secret" and has not been. The only time it's not recorded is if it's transferred to an immediate family member. We have a lot of people who have never shot a gun, never been through the process of buying one, have no idea what "assault riffle" means, don't understand how long it takes to change a 30 round or 10 round clip, don't exercise their right to own a gun - conveniently chime in. A lot of scared people who don't realize what they are loosing. And a lot of non-gun owners who don't understand the issue. It's kinda like me never having an abortion and not even having the capability of having an abortion - throw judgement out on the issue. I can't. Lets say I don't have a license and never drove - I guess I wouldn't care if the government mandated the installation in EVERYONE's autos where they had to blow in an alcohol analyzer to start the car because of a few irresponsible drunks. This gun law will not prevent a criminal, insane, fanatical, mentally ill person who missed their meds from committing the same tragedies in Aurora or Newtown again. It's rushed, politically motivate legislation.
Archie Bunker January 17, 2013 at 06:29 PM
No, people's names and private residences should not be publicized. what good does that do? The people who really need to know already know - the law
Edward Smith January 17, 2013 at 07:37 PM
@Chris K... U.S. federal law requires persons engaged in interstate firearm commerce, or those who are "engaged in the business" of dealing firearms, to hold a Federal Firearms License and perform background checks through the National Instant Criminal Background Check System maintained by the FBI prior to transferring a firearm. Under the terms of the Firearm Owners Protection Act of 1986, however, individuals "not engaged in the business" of dealing firearms, or who only make "occasional" sales within their state of residence, are under no requirement to conduct background checks on purchasers or maintain records of sale (although even private sellers are forbidden under federal law from selling firearms to persons they have reason to believe are felons or otherwise prohibited from purchasing firearms).
Edward Smith January 17, 2013 at 07:41 PM
Some states in the United States have numerous gun shows, such as Texas, and other states rarely have gun shows, such as New Jersey. In New Jersey, only one small gun show (fewer than 200 people) takes place monthly, and absolutely no transfers of modern firearms are allowed at the show, which is run by an antique gun collectors club. New Jersey, by U.S. standards, has very strict firearms regulations and laws. In Texas, over 150 gun shows take place every year, most shows attracting thousands of patrons. There is very little state or federal regulation of private transfers of firearms at these shows. Other states, such as Colorado, take more of a middle ground. In Colorado, about 50 gun shows take place each year, and private sales of any firearms are prohibited at all gun shows. All firearms sales at Colorado gun shows must be made by a federally licensed firearms dealer, and include a [|criminal background check]]. Private sales/transfers of firearms in the state of Colorado outside of gun shows are still legal. In contrast, in many other states, private sales/transfers of firearms between private citizens of the same state are entirely legal, regardless of whether within or outside of gunshows.
Bob Micca January 18, 2013 at 02:20 AM
7 round magazines? Do they even exist?
Bob Micca January 18, 2013 at 02:23 AM
There's already been thievery of guns from homes of published gun owners.
Bob Micca January 18, 2013 at 02:26 AM
The vast bulk of gun shootings - including deaths - in this nation, involves ILLEGAL UNREGISTERED GUNS in the hands of criminals and ghetto-gang members. They are a far greater problem AND YET our Leaders are completely MUM about them.
Bob Micca January 18, 2013 at 02:28 AM
The 7-Round Magazine Limit, not only affects the Police, it also effectively makes most non-revolver pistols useless.
Edward Smith January 18, 2013 at 10:32 PM
To Chris K.: I don't think their names should be publicized. I think they should be public knowledge. There's a difference.
Edward Smith January 18, 2013 at 10:35 PM
To Bob Micca: Our leaders are not Mum about them. They are directly addressing the problem by saying that all guns must be registered, including transfers from private sales and gun shows. We have to eliminate legal guns.
Bob Micca January 19, 2013 at 04:50 AM
I see your point, Ed. All the criminals and ghetto gang folk are rushing to their nearest police precincts and turning in all their guns, starting with their weapons of mass destruction.. Obama speaks about his home-town all the time; the murder capital of the USA.. Chicago. . "Crooks & Crazies of Chi-Town. I guess you forgot that you've been breaking the existing law murdering your fellow humans with your illegal guns. You didn't know they were illegal. Right? But First? Let's eliminate legal guns. What you gotta say 'bout that, HAH!"
Patchogue Snoop January 29, 2013 at 05:02 PM
You are right Bob! Under the cover of darkness our state at breakneck speed determined this is the most important thing on the agenda. Meanwhile, the taxpayers suffer and Sandy victims suffer even more waiting for a state that has not one dime to provide to recovery set aside, so Cuomo begs the FEDS for help and rolls over to their demand for gun control....ie no LIB support from you.....no billions on the way. Even NY State has been compromised and addicted to federal handouts. Well this has been the Democrat way of winning elections for half a century now. Hispanics that are reading this, dont let the DEMS?LIBS fool you. Don't end up like others that have addicted to their handouts. Every human deserves better treatment. Beware of their lies and research conservative values.
Patchogue Snoop February 26, 2013 at 07:04 PM
Ed, Researching the mess Cuomo caused in his liberal craze to stomp on the constitution? Here is a bit....many gun manufacturers have now refused to sell guns in NY. This includes all law enforcement agencies here. Win win for the criminals...lose lose for law abiding American citizens. You and your lib bretheren dont fool me for a second, this is nothing more than a case of inch by inch to get what you want. No guns for the law abiding folk but the eleite get to keep their armed guards. Let them eat cake right!?
Patchogue Snoop February 26, 2013 at 07:13 PM
One other bit. As King Cuomo ranted to his kingdom....."it doesn't take ten bullets to kill a deer" I wonder: Did he ever read the Constitution? I did and don't see any reference to deer hunting in the second amendment. Does he know the laws of his own state that he runs, not to mention his legal prowess???? I do and here they are direct from the DEC NYS website which prohibits use of....... •An autoloading firearm with a capacity of more than 6 shells (one which requires that the trigger be pulled separately for each shot), except an autoloading pistol with a barrel length of less than 8 inches. So you see, you can't even use a 10 round magazine OR a semi automatic gun. Once again, more lies from the libs.

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