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Village Parking Meters Now Operating, Hands On

Rates are 25 cents for 30 minutes in the daytime, 50 cents for 30 minutes or $5 all night in the evening.

Patchogue Village's parking meters are now in operation on Main Street, South Ocean Avenue and Railroad Avenue, with parking lots to follow in the spring.

The meters, which first started running on Jan. 2, run Monday-Saturday between 10 a.m.-2 a.m. the following day. According to a letter sent to village residents, rates for the meters are 25 cents for 30 minutes from 10 a.m.-6 p.m. with a 90 minute limit in place, and nighttime rates are 50 cents for 30 minutes or $5 to park all night from 6 p.m.-2 a.m. the following day with no time limit.

Street parking will be free on Sundays and major holidays including New Years Day, Memorial Day, July 4th, Labor Day, Thanksgiving Day, Christmas Eve and Christmas Day.

The letter states that there are a number of free 15 minute parking stalls on Main Street near the post office, banks, take-out restaurants and other businesses that are designed for customers to quickly go "in and out" during the daytime. These spots will become paid spots during the evening hours.

The meters accept payment by cash and credit card currently, and will accept payment using a smartphone app starting Jan. 20.

Following the launch of meters on the streets, meters for Patchogue Village’s parking lots are expected to be installed in the spring along with a resurfacing of the lots.

As previously reported, village residents are currently expected to be able to park freely in all parking areas except for Main Street using a sticker to be issued later in the year. Residents who live outside of Patchogue Village will be able to park freely in about 65 percent of the parking spots all of the time, with 35 percent being metered at different times, Krieger told Patch in September.

Revenue from the parking meters is expected to contribute toward possible creation of additional parking necessitated by Patchogue Village's growth.

Residents with questions on the launch of on-street parking can email deputy mayor Jack Krieger at jkrieger@patchoguevillage.org or call Patchogue Village Hall at 631-475-4300.

Watch a video in the media gallery of Local Editor Michael Sorrentino using the parking meter to buy a spot on Main Street. Please note the video was recorded on Jan. 2 just before last week's snow storm, and reference is made to the date in the recording.

What are your thoughts on the parking meters coming to Patchogue Village? Talk about them in the comments below the post.
John Bogack January 09, 2014 at 04:13 PM
Dan I suggest whether you a village resident or not that you can email Trustee Krieger who has been handling all these parking issues via the Village website. You can also attend Monday's Trustee meeting at village hall and speak directly to the Mayor and the whole Board about this issue whether you are a resident or not too. The meeting begins at 6 p.m. and since there are two public hearings about other subjects on the agenda I am going to say it will be later before the Public To Be Heard portion of the meeting is arrived at. Either method though would allow you to directly make your case instead of going through a third party.
S Klosner January 09, 2014 at 04:34 PM
Lots of free parking in Sayville
Daniel Cole January 09, 2014 at 04:41 PM
I agree with everything that John Bogack wrote. The village underestimated the amount of time it would take to install the meters, and as a result we are losing a lot of the projected revenue for the first year. I also question why it seemed to be such a surprise that the parking lots needed to be repaired and repainted. That could have been done last year in anticipation of the meters. There is no question that vandals are an issue, and I don't doubt that the village will pay through the nose when one of the meters needs to be replaced. Drunks and sociopaths can be very expensive guests, and we have more than our share of both on any given weekend. (On a related note: does anyone know what happened to the embedded walkway lights in the alley by ParaBell? Was that vandalism or bad snowplowing?) We're not going to know for a long time what the net revenue will be from these meters, and we certainly shouldn't make any budget decisions or bond offerings until we have a year or two of data. I for one do not believe the rosy revenue projections we keep hearing from the village, especially since they always seemed to be going up. There will be a net positive revenue stream, but I think the mayor and trustees heard what they wanted to hear from the company selling the parking meters, and they weren't particularly critical about the costs or the details. That's how you burn money. And on the topic of burning money, I don't know why we are investigating building a parking structure, given we already know how expensive they are to build and maintain relative to ground level parking. Until we have exhausted other options, like land purchases, it seems obvious that tiered parking doesn't make any sense, so why do we paying for another study to tell us this?
John Bogack January 09, 2014 at 04:54 PM
The parking study is being done for free by an outside group that specializes in such things. I believe the village went along with the study for that reason to get another option. I also believe the study is not just limited to estimating the costs of tiered parking but may also suggest other strategies as well to deal with the present and oncoming parking issues in the village. At one of the more recent Board meetings these sobering facts were shared with the public. To create one surface parking space 15000. To create one tiered parking space 30000. As Trusee Crean pointed out these estimated figures did not take into account land acquisition costs so until those costs are actually known the true cost of creating parking spaces is not known. The offset is that one of these spaces produces about a quarter milion dollars in economic activity annually if my memory serves me right. These parking spaces are like oil wells once established it turns out but getting that oil rig in place is not exactly cheap.
Rollo Tomasi January 09, 2014 at 06:54 PM
Nothing is free in life...even taxes and death...you can tap the earths crust and yes make $$$...but eventually it runs dry...free studies just shows that there is another way of someone getting something....I've seen it happen before...nobody be surprised at what will happen in the future...eventually.
Daniel Cole January 09, 2014 at 07:20 PM
John - I think I remember hearing about that free study. Thanks for reminding me. One of the nice things about being a village in the process of revitalizing is that there are plenty of non-profits out there who would love to use us as a laboratory for their urban planning ideas. I do remember the two-to-one ratio of cost for tiered parking versus surface parking, though the $15,000 figure still blows my mind (and, as you said, that's without land acquisition costs). The $250,000 annual revenue figure seems a bit high to me (that's nearly $700 a day). I would think that estimate would strongly depend on the sort of economic activity happening near the parking space, and how often the space is utilized. We should also remember that, like an oil well, a new parking space comes with other negative impacts, like environmental issues (runoff, urban heat island effects, less green space). That's why using the spaces we already have more efficiently should be our first response to this parking problem.
Jo Miller January 09, 2014 at 09:13 PM
Does the estimated revenue include fines for violations? At a recent board meeting, it was indicated that money earned from the meters would be used to acquire additional parking but money acquired from fines would go to the general fund. Would the cost of repairs, from vandalism or otherwise, be paid for from the parking fund or from the general fund? Lots of questions and only time will tell whether this plan will be successful.
Daniel Cole January 09, 2014 at 11:06 PM
Jo - I seem to remember that the revenue estimates included fines, and that the percentage of revenue from fines was substantial. The estimates may be high, but not completely off-base, at least this year. For example, I was down in the village today, and I already saw one young couple park, made a joke about the meters, and walk into their destination without paying. (At the same time, I also saw someone paying one of the meters, and plenty of people were still parked on Main Street.) Clearly there are those who will test the meters to see if they are enforced, so I expect a fair amount in fines this year. But next year, once people know what they can or cannot get away with? That's not as clear to me. It seems to me that revenue from fines is often overestimated. Suffolk's red light cameras are a good example of this.
John Bogack January 10, 2014 at 08:09 AM
Meghan: you should be able to buy a low cost limited use monthly pass from the village if you work in the village and need to park. Although there was supposed to be a website up and running providing this kind of information as far as I know it is not yet up. In the meantime there is a spot on the front page of the village website where you can send an email asking for information. I believe that the emails are going directly to Village Clerk Seal who I know would be happy to help: www.patchoguevillage.org. Rick and all others also interested, the study which is being done for free is being conducted by the LI Index. To read more about that group and what they are doing in Patchogue Village you can go to their website for more information: www.longislandindex.org. Click for information relating to Build a Better Burb Parking Plus project. Money for the design team is coming from a private foundation actually as per their website. Lastly Daniel and Jo: the amounts that are projected to come from parking revenues have changed over the past year. The last projected amount as per the Mayor was about 500,000 from fees, and 500,000 from fines. Over the course of the year that figure started from a lower point and then peaked at the numbers I just wrote. I do not believe them. For example I agree with Dan, after a while people will catch on to the fact that they are going to get caught if they do not park and pay and the amount from fines is going to drop. That is the purpose of fines to teach people to comply otherwise the village takes on the mantle of an Alabama speed trap just counting on people to make mistakes so that the village can collect money. That kind of policy ultimately is going to chase people away from the village rather than bring them in. The parking fees are going to produce cash but I have to wonder if that half million dollar figure is solid. It just all points back to what I have said before. It is going to be a year or so before there is going to be real world experience with the parking fees and fines before anyone is really reliably going to be able to say: “this is the money we can count on” to buy land or build a tiered parking garage.
Michael Leaning January 10, 2014 at 09:05 AM
Lady talking about closing her account at BoA is an internet troll. BoA has a drive through teller, so you don't even have to park if you don't want to! Besides, BoA losing a couple of hundred (if that) customers to some "parking issue" isn't going to really affect the 2nd largest bank in the USA.
Jo Miller January 11, 2014 at 04:33 PM
This afternoon around 3:30 I tried to go to Teachers Federal Credit Union. Not a parking spot to be found and the lots are jammed with cars riding around in an attempt to find a car pulling out. A mess!! I got on to Ocean Ave and went to the Farmingville branch. I won't even attempt to use the branch on Main St anymore.
Hipockets January 11, 2014 at 04:55 PM
To you Michael, I have been using that bank probably longer than you have been alive, Parking is terrible and the lots are full and I am not going to sit in my car to use my bank, so keep your stupid comments to yourself, ! This village has gone to the trash...
Rollo Tomasi January 11, 2014 at 05:54 PM
You said it all Hipockets...I concur.
Jack Krieger January 12, 2014 at 12:59 AM
I invite anyone with questions or comments about the parking meter program to attend the Monday, January 12 Village Board Meeting where you can speak during the Public To Be Heard portion,or you can email me at jkrieger@patchoguevillage.org. The meeting starts at 6:00 pm.
Patchogue Snoop January 13, 2014 at 10:18 AM
Jack, Just an FYI the server seems to be down. Why bother with comments at this point, you made your decision. It is a done deal like the vast majority of issues in this village. The resident's comments do nothing to change things. Why do you think no one goes to the meeting anymore? Apathy. ya know, like the spot zoning by the board for that absurd structure housing 290 apartments stuffed into a small area. What did the village get from the developer?? Not a darn thing, towering structure, no set back, no roadway improvements, no hotel. They got what they wanted and the Village got the shaft. King PP got plenty.
John Bogack January 13, 2014 at 10:55 AM
The subject here is not New Village it is about parking issues and nothing else. Adocating continued apathy is corrupt. Where a village trustee has invited public comment that ought to be respected as a good faith effort to get it. I urge any and all who do have questions about the parking situation in the village to follow up on the invitation made by Trustee Krieger and not to give in to the cynical views that rot the will of the public to stand up for itself when needed.
John Bogack January 13, 2014 at 11:29 AM
I am not the boss of anything but you are not either. These claims made by you today as you made have again and again are without substantiation and you have failed again and again to take necessary steps to prove them. Instead you have launched a campaign of defamation against the Mayor. No facts just allegations. If you had anything that could be proven you should have taken them to the DA long ago. Sadly courage can not be legislated. You either have it or you don't. Just because you have given up does mean that all the rest of it have to go along and that is what I am opposing here. Surrender is not an option, activism and faith in the people of the village of Patchogue that they are not corrupt is what fuels my hopes. Anything less is corrupt and cowardly. And that is no lie.
John Bogack January 13, 2014 at 12:03 PM
Guidance from you to where a sewer? The point is prove your points where it counts. You lack credibility. These are the facts: arrests none, indictments none, trials none, investigations none. Your allegations many, your actual proof: none.
Patchogue Snoop January 13, 2014 at 12:20 PM
Then we could easily figure out his total mileage for his clapped out old ford for the four years.....DMV record from inspections...and walla!! You will see that the 4500 gallons closely matches and realistically represents his gas mileage....IE he used public owned gas for all his travel mileage registered with the DMV....ie personal use. Not to mention his filling of gas cans as witnessed by others.
Michael Sorrentino (Editor) January 13, 2014 at 12:22 PM
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John Bogack January 13, 2014 at 12:31 PM
Can you read? That report refers to Sudan Roach who was arrested and not the Mayor. In fact it was an internal village auditor who found out about that criminal act. Please gets your facts correct. And as for everything else you claim to know it is not my job to investigate them. That is why we have a District Attorney. Either you have facts that can be acted on or not. You want me to do your work? I think not. I will do mine and ask no one to do it for me and the same rule applies to you. A person who hides his identity but slings mud on others, and that is your record and not mine, that is a tip off right there that whatever that person has to claim has to be taken with a grain of salt. Honesty begins with disclosing who you are. Otherwise you are just as invisible as the very same "illegals" you rail against all the time. Unlike you they are not citizens. You are, act like one and take a stand that might actually result in something. Have faith in the country that you say you love. I do not believe the DA is corrupt but just like any law enforcement officer without facts there is no case and if people who claim to have them do not file complaints no actions can be taken.
Rollo Tomasi January 13, 2014 at 01:58 PM
Not to change the subject but I just got home from shopping and having lunch too...not in town though...I drove past the meters....smile on my face...just saying.
Michael Leaning January 13, 2014 at 02:13 PM
Hipockets - I don't know what a persons age or length of banking history has to do with my opinion on the internet...? Whatever, if you're handicapped and drive to a bank but stubborn and don't want to use a convenient drive-thru teller, sounds like someone who just likes to complain. Good luck in your future banking endeavors!
Patchogue Snoop January 13, 2014 at 05:02 PM
Sudan Roach?....Susan Roach.... and there is another person. No audit just an alert Village employee noticed it then the audit...sort of. Read the Attorney Generals report for much more. Facts are facts. 4717gals(actual amount used).... gals times 20 mpg( as an average)=94,340 miles driven. Absolute impossibility to go that far in this tiny Village on "official" business! Then he sells this vehicle that was already ten years old at that point back to the village because it was so good through his cousins used car business, why was that? He approved the sale. Come now. Parking was always bad in the Village. Add, 300 apartments built partially on Village property(the old parking lot, formerly the tier structure that collapsed due to lack of footings and poor concrete work, throw in another skyscraper(nursing home) add in the bars allowed with inadequate parking and you have what you have....parking issues that will further drive away shoppers. Hmm, what town surrenders their property to a private developer so he can cram as many apts as possible on a tiny plot? Good luck John. Over and out for good.
Patchogue Snoop January 13, 2014 at 05:29 PM
John said..... invisible as the very same "illegals". Invisible...really? If so that is their problem coming here illegally just because they "wanted to"! Also, "Unlike you they are not citizens"... Correct John, they are not citizens but demand everything a citizen gets. The taxpayer pays and pays for this....why? Taking hard earned money off the tables of the middle class just so the free spending Dems get their automatic citizen kids votes? Why is that? Why do they get part of my paycheck. Why doesn't my pay go to my family and kids? Why to some criminal here illegally? Why do they get american jobs when nearly 15% is out or gave up on working? Why? They undercut wages here in America. Why are billions upon bullions being set out of this country to their homeland. How does that help our dismal economy? When did the American taxpayer have the responsibility to bring the entire world up to our standards? They didn't fight for our countries gains, never contributed a dime yet they come in the millions to take. Not all but many. I don't like that one bit, neither does 70% of the country if not higher. No we are not racist, never were, never will be.....just sick and tired of paying for others who offer nothing. And please don't give me the leftie line of they do the jobs Americans don't want. That is absolute baloney. Now we have our Feds handing out green cards to levels never seen before...all during an lousy jobs market....all in the hopes they can ram voting rights for green card holders. There is a reason why they say undocumented future democrat. Another misnomer invented by the Dems who want votes. There is nothing undocumented about them...as an illegal there is no documentation forthcoming...ever. Just a lie from the left.
John Bogack January 14, 2014 at 08:50 AM
Well we have gone far afield here and way off topic and after this post I am off this thread although I am sure the topic of parking meters is not done and I will have something to say about that subject again along with others. Just to clarify, as I have said numerous other times in the Patch, I do not believe that any person should be in this country illegally. Our country lacks an effective policy for dealing with this issue and there is plenty of blame to go around accounting for that. Like many others I hope that the national government finds a workable solution in the next session of Congress. In the meantime President Obama has enforced a crack down on the border. Millions of persons who might have otherwise crossed into the US have been detained before doing so. It is an imperfect solution but a necessary one. I can only hope our country finds a better one in time. There has to be an alternative to mass deportation of tens of millions of people the majority of whom would be children. But a solution must and should be found as this debate needs to come to an end with a plan that is humane but results in no person having illegal status is the US. How we get there is in the hands of others. For the sake of our country I hope we can find a way out of this mess.
Patchogue Snoop January 15, 2014 at 10:11 AM
Back to the parking......plenty in Sayville. Parked right in front of the barber shop this am!! No stumble bums on the street or immigrants on bikes speeding down the sidewalks. No foreign languages screamed at each other across the street disrupting the peace. No loitering in front of the stores by less than stand up looking folk. Just a nice place to spend my money! Rather than have it picked by the Village I pay 2680 per year in taxes to.
Sandy Hamilton January 20, 2014 at 01:20 PM
The thought of tier parking again!! What a mess the first time.
Patchogue Snoop January 21, 2014 at 09:40 AM
After getting pounded to death on the potholes and sink holes.....I made it out of the Village. Headed west to a great bagel place in east end of Sayville. Pulled in and out no problem. Ran next door and purchased a new faucet at the new plumbing supply store. Out in a flash, no charge, the way a town should be......ample parking. FREE!!
Andreas April 10, 2014 at 02:24 PM
I just wanted to say that I will no longer be visiting the town of Patchogue. I usually spend a lot of money there but this has just become an additional annoyance and money grab and will hurt businesses there. There are plenty of alternate businesses in neighboring towns that I will be giving my business to moving forward.

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