Tensions Rise as E. Patchogue Walmart Proposal Heads Toward Board Vote

Residents make feelings known on proposed superstore as an environmental study is resubmitted.

Blue and yellow signs clashed at the Brookhaven Town Planning Board meeting Monday night as concerned residents displayed support and opposition to the

Attorneys from Barry S. Porter & Associates presented alternatives to the construction plan, the options ranging from different square footages for the building or avoiding construction altogether.

John Harter, of Atlantic Traffic & Design Engineers, said traffic flow will not be harmed and extensive road renovations wouldn’t be necessary.  

“The bridge widening is not mandatory,” Harter said. “The DEIS [] report says there will be minimal traffic influence, and traffic during peak hour would not be affected.”  

The proposal to bring Walmart to the open land on Hospital Road and North Service Road was initially brought to the Board in 2008. The Board received the DEIS report on Nov. 21, 2011 after rescinding the first draft.

Mixed feelings in the crowd were evident as Chairman Vincent Pascale frequently banged the gavel for order. Among them was Sylvia Harris of Pinewood Apartments, who gathered a petition of 2,250 people who are pro-Walmart.

“They have Walmart everywhere else [besides] Suffolk, and some of us senior citizens can’t make it there,” Harris said. “What’s wrong with building it there? If you’re talking about the traffic, it’s bad everywhere. If I had the money, I’d build it myself.”

Pascale read a letter from Mayor Paul Pontieri that announced the Patchogue Village Board of Trustees opposition toward Walmart.

“Patchogue has felt the negative impact of big box stores, and many of our retail stores are struggling through a downward economy- the last thing we need is another big box store,” the letter read.

Preserving wildlife and the green space was also a concern for many, including Mary Ann Johnston of the Affiliated Brookhaven Civic Organization Inc.

“We have a commitment to maintain open space, and I’d like to see [the Board] keep it,” Johnston said. “We want to convert our blighted properties into lighted properties- I’ve never heard an explanation to why Walmart wants this site.”

The next Board meeting will be held on January 23.  

Patchogue resident January 10, 2012 at 02:20 PM
Traffic wouldn't be interruppted?? Are they joking? I live in the area and on a regular day traffic gets backed up at the light of the South Service Rd. and Hospital Rd. When the Hospital Rd bridge was undergoing some type of repairs a few years back I couln't even use the Hospital Rd. exit of Sunrise Highway to get home. I live right off the North Service Rd. and had to take Rt 112 and go way out of my way because traffic was so backed up at that time. The line of cars can get backed up almost up to the Hospital Rd. exit on Sunrise Highway at rush hour. Now imagine the amount of traffic Walmart will bring?? As far as the senior citizens go who wants this Walmart built on Hospital Rd., what's the difference if it's built in the Bellport outlets? If I had the money I would build this Walmart in Sylvia Harris's backyard. Let her deal with the traffic, noise, crowds and chaos this Walmart will bring (especially during the holidays). I chose to live in a residential area not on Main Street and want to keep it a residential area. Move this Walmart to the Bellport outlets if it has to be built.
Joseph LoSchiavo January 10, 2012 at 06:29 PM
The only real issue is the traffic pattern. It is insane to think that a two lane bridge that is already heavily congested will not been more filled . The emergency route should take presidence over all. This is a crazy ideas. The town should stop this.
Fred Stewart January 10, 2012 at 06:33 PM
better yet, screw walmart, put the same energy/effort/$$ toward helping small business in the area! the waltons don't need more money, and will only pay part-time slave wages (w/no benefits) to members of the community. an interesting read from someone who's been there... http://workingatwal-mart.blogspot.com/
Larry Tornetta January 10, 2012 at 08:02 PM
you can't build anything in this day and age with the not in my backyard mentality. If the property is zoned properly they should be able to build whatever they want. I never shop at Walmart but i acknowledge their right to build a store
Madford Resident January 11, 2012 at 01:33 AM
It was really nice of Walmart to spring for the bus, t-shirts, shopping bags, coupons and pretty blue signs.
Jo January 11, 2012 at 03:18 AM
Larry, this parcel is not zoned correctly this is the HUGE problem and which is why Walmart is NOT built already. They need a variance for parking which grossly manipulates or towns zoning. As for the Walmart supporters it was sad to see people bussed in from La Bonne Vi owned by Walmarts future landlord. They were promised a night out and got a roast beef sandwich, blue bag, poster and to sit at a town hall meeting for hours. Sad that they treat their supporters like circus animals. As far as the trade union workers they are not from the area and could care less about the impact of this project they just want to work. They would be just as happy building a mall, bank or vacant building! Once again we were graced with Ms. Harris a pro Walmart speaker who will be unable to just "walk across the Hospital Rd Bridge" as she stated in her public comment. As if she were listening to the town expert just moments before she would have heard that proper traffic regs call for a 185 ft turning lane and Walmart can only get a max of 175 ft and would have to remove the sidewalk on the bridge to do that! Maybe Walmart will bus Ms Harris in to the store. lol !!!!!!
Jo January 11, 2012 at 03:21 AM
It was awesome to see such community pride last night! We demand to be heard! Walmart is obligated to give us "the community" and Brookhaven Planning Board a real DEIS not the fluff that they submitted. We DESERVE BETTER!
Jo January 11, 2012 at 04:00 AM
BTW GET A LAWN SIGN OR WINDOW SIGN "NO WALMART" just email epwalmartfree@aol.com
Joe January 14, 2012 at 04:19 PM
Not only do we need to consider the traffic on Hospital Road we need to consider some alternative routes that will be used. Barton Avenue will become a shortcut from Rt112. The increased traffic will impair the safety of the children attending Barton Avenue Elementary School. The traffic flow off Barton will have an effect on the emergency services provided by the North Patchogue Fire Department substation (not just the traffic on Hospital Road). The brand new bicycle lanes on Woodside Avenue would be unsafe to use if not eliminated due to the increased traffic. For those that are planning to walk to Walmart you might want to think twice. Given the traffic, you might want to consider your own safety.
Joe January 14, 2012 at 04:21 PM
Destroying a natural habitat so a minority of shoppers can walk there to shop is hardly a reason to build it. There are more than one alternative local sites if Walmart wants to build and it would not require cutting down one tree. Jobs? After the constuction is done all we will be left with are minimum wage part time jobs. Earnings that probably won't be enough to even shop at Walmart. This project has nothing to do with community service or needs. It has more to do with the greed of a small minority. I moved to the town some thirty years ago becuse the area had something the western towns that I came from could not offer. That was the natural open space and wildlife. If you want to walk to your shopping I suggest that you move to the city. There is plenty of shopping that you can walk to.
Scott January 14, 2012 at 08:51 PM
We live on Robinson Avenue south of Sunrise Hwy and north of Sills Rd, and would be devastated by the construction of Walmart on Hospital Rd. Since Best Bargain Books and Lowe's opened, the traffic on both Robinson and Hewlett Avenues has drastically changed with increased speeding and lack of stopping for stop signs. Now with the addition of St. Joseph's Athletic Complex, traffic in the area will increase considerably, especially if local roads are used as cut-throughs. The intersection of Hospital Rd. and Sunrise Hwy. Service Rd. has always been a traffic issue. We have waited 5-6 light cycles before being able to get through at rush hour. Add now the athletic events traffic as well as Walmart traffic and this intersection becomes a nightmare! Walmart would be a huge draw to consumers, as there is no such store in the area, however, combined with the sports complex the impact on traffic would be impossible to analyze. In addition, we just learned that Pondview Apartments, which currently enters and exits from Hospital Rd. has placed a Town variance on Foxcroft Lane for a guard house and egress that spills directly into the heart of our small neighborhood. As a tiny community sandwiched between the service road and Sills Rd. near Hospital Rd., we're getting lost in the shuffle. We implore you consider all options/ locations before allowing such a huge store to impact our neighborhood. We are very concerned about impact of traffic and our quality of life and home value.
thomas January 16, 2012 at 03:47 PM
I, the consumer, want lower prices and convenience. I have to wait till I am in the office to go to Walmart during lunch at work. I would love for them to build it at hospital rd. Convenience and price. That's what's important. If you want to use small businesses instead, then do that. You don't have to go to Walmart to shop. Where's the complaint with Shop Rite.
Patchogue resident January 29, 2012 at 03:56 PM
Martha - I got all your replies to this article in my email although i dont know why they arent showing up here? "Looking forward to it... change is good when its in the form of a WALMART in my neighborhood. I live in E. Patchogue unlike alot of unhappy NON E. Patchogue residents... We look forward to Walmart... and that I say for ALL my neighbors haven't yet met one E. Patchogue resident that objects... single Mom, and here for good... so when my car went bad I was thankful for Peapod from Stop n Shop... then there was Shoprite Next to Raimour n Flannigan but thats Patchogue NOT E. Patchogue. And that ShopRite the prices for a ShopRite are rediculous. Went in once and even the coffee was nasty. Anyways we ARE SO ANXIOUSLY LOOKING FORWARD TO WALMART." My response: I am a resident of East Patchogue who by the way is living down the street from where they want to build this Walmart. Me & my neighbors are against this Walmart being built! So what are you talking about when you said all the non E. Patchogue residents are not happy? You shouldn't be making comments when you dont know what you are talking about. Me and my neighbors had to deal with horrible traffic issues when the Hospital rd bridge was being fixed a few years back. That was a minor issur so changing the bridge to accomodate Walmart shoppers will be a huge annoyance and inconvenience! Once the bridge is done the traffic and amount of ppl is the another inconvenience.
Patchogue resident January 29, 2012 at 04:04 PM
Let me translate what the spanish part of your comment says for all to read since this is the US and we speak English here. Oh btw I speak spanish too but again we are in the US and this article in written in English. You said: " The ones who are complaining are old people and the sad lonely people who dont have anyone to listen to them, We can't wait for Walmart." I am a happily married woman who is definately not alone. All my neighbors against Walmart are married raising families as well. The elderly in La Bonne Vie are all for this Walmart so again get your facts straight before you make such comments.
Christopher Mancini January 29, 2012 at 05:59 PM
Come on people!!!! This location is just SO REDICULOUS!!!! It's ABSURD to think that you can put this on a service road that is part of a neighborhood. I too would love to see a Walmart go up near here (I too live in East Patchogue ..... Near the Hospital) BUT, I don't want to see it go up in the PROPOSED location. Not because of the "NOT IN MY BACKYARD" mantra...... BUT because this location is STUPID!!!!! Let's all use our brains on this one!!!! This location NEVER was and NEVER will be meant to handle the traffic that a Walmart will generate!!! Why not the empty outlets?? wjy not the vacant multiplex on sunrise ( former drive in) ???? WHY NOT the vacant multiplex on the LIE service road???? All paces that could handle the added traffic. COMMON SENSE PEOPLE!!!! COMMON SENSE!!!!! That is what is needed and that is what I'm not seing fromanyone who is in favor of this. That is NOT what I'm seeing from the Town Of Brookhaven (aka Crookhaven)..... That is not what I'm seeing from Arnold Wolowitz!!!!!!!
Dave Blaize March 26, 2013 at 09:10 PM
Where is the latest info- over a year since any new developments reported on east patchogue Walmart?
Martha Gillette March 26, 2013 at 11:23 PM
So EXITED East Patchogue resident and we are looking forward to East Patchogue NY Walmart. Those who are opposed will end up shopping there themselves so hey get over it y'all. It's gonna happen. Walmart in East Patchogue we are looking forward to it it'll be so close well be able to walk there but would have to bring the truck cause we'd buy so much. Walmart were super exited looking forward to it. Brookhaven Walmart would definately be a positive thing. Lets stop delaying the inevitable. When the longterm benefits seriously outweigh the complaints of those who'd end up shopping there we'll you know give them the go ahead common we've waited long enough. We <3 East Patchogue Walmart.
Martha Gillette March 26, 2013 at 11:24 PM
7:23 pm on Tuesday, March 26, 2013 So EXITED East Patchogue resident and we are looking forward to East Patchogue NY Walmart. Those who are opposed will end up shopping there themselves so hey get over it y'all. It's gonna happen. Walmart in East Patchogue we are looking forward to it it'll be so close well be able to walk there but would have to bring the truck cause we'd buy so much. Walmart were super exited looking forward to it. Brookhaven Walmart would definately be a positive thing. Lets stop delaying the inevitable. When the longterm benefits seriously outweigh the complaints of those who'd end up shopping there we'll you know give them the go ahead common we've waited long enough. We <3 East Patchogue Walmart.
Martha Gillette March 26, 2013 at 11:25 PM
Proudly desolating Yes East Patchogue sign :-)
Martha Gillette March 26, 2013 at 11:28 PM
Martha Gillette March 26, 2013 at 11:31 PM
Anyone knows where I can get a sign "I want East Patchogue Walmart"... MGillette71@optimum.net Thank you.
Sandra Davis April 23, 2013 at 04:56 PM
I love shopping at Walmart. Where can I get a sign "I want East Patchogue Walmart"... Think Jobs, conveinence for seniors. Not all of us can afford to shop at the high end stores. Walmart has quality items that we who are on a fixed budget can afford. I agree with Martha.
Christopher Mancini August 04, 2013 at 08:51 AM
This CRAZY IDEA of building a Walmart at the proposed location has been very quiet lately. Anyone know what the latest status is of this?? As I have stated before, I too would like a Walmart near here. BUT ....... ANYONE who thinks that this location is a good one has seriously got to re-think this. Hospital Rd CAN NOT HANDLE the traffic. The last I heard, the Town Of Brookhaven (aka Town Of Crookhaven) has determined that the over pass that is currently in place, can handle the increased traffic. Well, that is absurd and obviously someone at town hall is either completely STUPID or JUST DOES NOT CARE about the immediate area where this store is to be built. Since a BJ's is rumored to be going up at the now vacant outlets in Bellport, Walmart and Arnold Wolowitz can push for this site. Well, anyway, I just want to know if anyone knows what the status is????


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