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The Four Corners: A Historical Perspective, A Plan for the Future

The Mayor’s new plan for the Four Corners is bad for Patchogue – Patchogue has enough low income, high density rental housing.

Introduction

The future of the Four Corners will determine Patchogue’s future. It is important for residents to fully understand where we came from and where we are now with this complex situation. I hope the reader will permit me the time necessary to lay out these facts below. 

After doing so, I will present Residents First’s plan for the Four Corners.

The Four Corners: Historical Background Summary

Swezey’s department store was the anchor of the Four Corners for decades. That store moved to the current Briarcliff location in 1999, but the company eventually went out of business in 2003, due to a changing economy, demographics, and retail landscape. That left a tremendous opportunity on the Four Corners. 

Mr. Pontieri was elected Village Trustee in 2001, and then elected Mayor in 2004.

In 2007, three years into his first term as Mayor, Mr. Pontieri began the threat of eminent domain proceedings to take the Swezey’s property away from its owner in order to transfer the property to Tritec.

In 2008, Mr. Pontieri and Tritec proudly announced their plan for the Four Corners at the Patchogue Theater. Approximately four hundred residents attended and were pleased to learn that Tritec promised a mixed-use plan that incorporated:

-          A 100 room hotel with a pedestrian promenade and community room

-          32,000 square feet of retail space

-          Owner-occupied residential units

-          Five level tiered parking garage with 626 parking spaces 

-          Preservation and incorporation of the .  

Before the plan was brought to a vote, it was amended several times. From the public’s perspective, some of the best aspects from the plan were removed at the request of the developer. In return, the developer promised to keep the hotel component of the plan in place to provide an anchor for the Four Corners and bring much needed foot traffic to our downtown. The desire for a hotel was never disputed.

In 2008, the Village Board approved Tritec’s first plan, giving the developer a significant variance that allowed them to build a plan that included a hotel. That approval and drastic zone change allowances were conditioned on the developer building the plan as it was approved. Those drastic zone change allowances were not provided to the developer to build a 291 unit apartment complex.

Since that date, the plan quietly morphed into a 291 unit apartment complex.

What we were promised: A 100 room hotel, owner-occupied units, tiered parking, a visitor’s promenade and community room

What we got: 291 rental apartments 

The Mayor’s push to pass Tritec’s amended plan

Changes to the Tritec’s first plan

Paul Pontieri quietly announced changes to the Tritec’s first plan in December 2010 (Editor's Note: The change was at a panel in September 2010.) Board members, members of the Chamber of Commerce, and residents were scrambling to get information about the amended plan at the eleventh hour. Troubled by this, I and several other Community volunteers scheduled a to make sure all residents could be informed about the amended plan and actively participate in the discussion process. We later learned that we were too late and Tritec and the Mayor had no intention of further amending their plan.

The Community Forum

Mr. Pontieri repeatedly attempted to put the project to a vote before the Community Forum date that I co-hosted at the Elks Club in January, 2011. At one point, he threatened to skip the forum altogether, relenting only when realizing we were going forward without him. 

We reminded the Mayor that he promised to fight against high density rental housing during his election campaigns with us. We told him we already have more rentals than any community in Suffolk County, and we urged him to work for a more diversified plan. He ignored our pleas and resisted our efforts to educate residents about the project’s drastic metamorphosis.

Mayor Pontieri promised to fight high density housing when he ran for Mayor. He has become its biggest proponent.

Many Village and community leaders also pleaded with Mayor Pontieri to stand up to the developer and to fight for a compromise on behalf of Village residents. They sought a compromise that would reduce the density and create a true mixed-use plan. Mayor Pontieri failed to negotiate or obtain a single change in the developer’s amended plan. It was an all or nothing, take it or leave it proposal.

“YES” vote – a rubber stamp

Instead of fighting for Village residents, the Mayor stood with developers when we needed him most. He pushed the plan to a vote last winter, and made the tie-breaking vote for high density, non-owner occupied rental units. His majority included board members (Krieger, Devlin, Keyes) who have never voted against any proposal, plan, resolution, or position taken or advanced by the Mayor. 

On March 10, 2011, the Village Board voted in favor of the amended Tritec plan (4-3: In favor: Pontieri, Krieger, Devlin, Keyes; Opposed: McGiff, Crean, Hilton).  

The approval of the Tritec’s amended plan is illegal and can be either set aside by a Court Order or by Village Board resolution

The Village Board’s approval of Tritec’s amended plan is illegal and can be reversed in one of two ways:

First, it can be set aside by a Court of competent jurisdiction.

Second, the Village Board can rescind the “amended plan” on several legal grounds.  Those grounds include the following:

1.         Improper SEQRA legal notice was provided about the attempt to change the plan (the State Environmental Quality Review Act require 30 day notice).

2.         The Village improperly failed to require an environmental impact statement (EIS) in connection with the developer’s 2010 application.

3.         The traffic analysis was flawed and failed to consider the most dangerous intersection (Havens, West Main, and Railroad Avenue).

4.         The “Amended Plan” wasn’t referred to the Architectural Review Board or the Historic Preservation Board as mandated by law, rendering it fatally defective.

5.         The Plan is “Spot Zoning” and therefore illegal (it benefits a single property owner instead of the Village at large).

6.         The Plan has allowed the developer to reduce its parking requirements dramatically and illegally to the detriment of the surrounding businesses.

7.         The DRD (District for Downtown Redevelopment) does not provide for an “amended plan,” and the “amended plan” constituted a new plan because it removed the hotel, therefore necessitating the commencement of a new application, subject to the legal scrutiny of the initial plan.

Accordingly, the “amended plan’s” approval is legally deficient, and therefore invalid.  Consequently, the only legal approval that Tritec has in place is to build the original plan – the one with the hotel, reduced number of residential units, and additional parking.  

Standing up to the Mayor and Tritec

For these reasons, I and other Village residents and small business owners commenced legal proceedings to stop Tritec’s amended plan for the Four Corners. We are spending our own money and time to fight the amended development. We do so not only for our own interests and property values, but for the benefit of the whole community.

I am proud that I am part of a group of other community minded residents and business owners who are standing up for what is right. 

The Mayor’s new plan for the Four Corners is bad for Patchogue – Patchogue has enough low income, high density rental housing 

Low income, high density housing

Tritec claims it will rent “market rate” units from $1,200.00 to $2,700.00[i] to middle class working families. We know that this plan is impractical and will fail because the suggested rental prices are much higher than comparable listings in our area. In addition, putting 291 rental units on the market in a community already saturated with rental housing will depress rental rates even further.

One example which illustrates that Tritec’s rental rate projections are unrealistic is the community. Artspace, with only 45 rental units, is renting its apartments at rates ranging from $817.00 to $1575.00. In order to fill its vacancies, Artspace had relaxed its artist requirement and also accepted Section 8 tenants. (Editor's Note: Artspace has a preference for artist residents with a screening process, not a requirement. .) 

 Section 8 is a federally subsidized housing assistance program to over 2 million low-income people nationwide each year.

Coincidentally, Tritec’s CEO, James Coughlan, is the Chairman of the Board for the Community Development Company of Long Island, an organization that manages over 3500 housing vouchers for Section 8. [ii] 

Considering this information, and the fact that Tritec’s amended plan consists of over six times the amount of units as Artspace, there is little doubt that the proposed development will attract a significant amount of Section 8 tenants. In fact, neither Tritec nor the Mayor has ever denied that Tritec will place Section 8 tenants in the 291 unit rental complex. 

Low income, high density housing is a bad idea for the Four Corners. Patchogue already has more than its fair share of high density and low income Section 8 housing throughout the Village.

Section 8 Housing

The concept that working families will flock to live on the Four Corners, and live side by side with Section 8 tenants in this massive apartment complex is preposterous. As Section 8 tenants move in, private pay tenants are likely to move out, and the complex will become predominantly low income, Section 8 occupied.

Studies conducted by HUD (Housing and Urban Development) show that Section 8 housing recipients cluster together, creating crime and other severe social issues. An Atlantic Magazine article describes how Section 8 housing clusters ruin communities.  The story cites a Brookings Institute list of the 15 cities where the number of high-poverty neighborhoods has also shown up as among the most violent in the U.S., according to FBI data. [iii]

According to the National Housing Institute, Section 8 housing is broken.  In its report, the institute reports that Section 8 is a catalyst in neighborhood deterioration and that its unintended consequences include neglected properties, persistent crime and a continual influx of families who have never lived outside of public housing.  Section 8 is supposed to de-concentrate poverty, but according to the article, it actually re-concentrates it, driving out middle-class residents, and turning the entire area into a slum. Once a neighborhood has some problems, the article reports, “Section 8 accelerates those problems.”[iv] 

If you want to see a local example of what the Tritec Plan will look like after the shine of the new construction wears off, take a look at the Maple Avenue Apartments (a five story apartment complex), the Tiffany Apartments, or the Terry Street Apartments.  These were all touted in their day as being “Smart Growth,” and “luxury apartments” that promised “feet on the street.” 

Then dramatically multiply the scale of those projects, envision a project significantly larger than all 3 of those projects combined, and picture it smack in the middle of Main Street.  That’s the Tritec plan.  If constructed, it will turn Patchogue into Hempstead.

Newsday recently reported complaints that the 337 unit Hempstead Manor apartment complex was an "absolute disgrace," with “gangs in the hallways, poor security…heat problems, bedbugs and other insects and ceilings falling down and facilities in disrepair."

This type of apartment complex on the Four Corners is a bad fit for our community, doesn’t maximize the potential of our Village, will fail to draw visitors to our town, and will result in the long term demise of our community. 

The Mayor and his team will counterattack the above by again calling me an alarmist or an elitist, or by quoting general Long Island housing statistics published by housing associations that support high density "Smart Growth" rental housing. So be it. I will not stop speaking the truth about this bad project, and if elected Mayor, I will never roll the dice with Patchogue’s future on a project with such terrible odds for our community.

Traffic flow problems and a parking nightmare

The developer claims 1.5 parking spaces per 291 apartments is enough.[v] If you consider that most families require at least two cars, the development should have at least 600 spaces for the apartments alone. The original plan called for a five tier parking garage with 626 parking spaces. The amended Tritec plan provides a major deficiency of parking spaces! (Think about it: if their new claims are correct and the development project didn’t require a lot more parking spaces, why did the initial plan include tiered parking in the first place?)

Design problems

Tritec and the Mayor wants residents to look at the plan on the Tritec website at:

http://www.newvillagepatchogue.com/the-project

Residents should look at the architect’s renderings.

The plan presented by Tritec online offers an overhead view of the project, along with a “Fly’s eye” view of the plan. 

The architect’s renderings provide side views of the property showing pretty pictures of brand new buildings with luxury stores and luxury cars. It is the overhead view that shows what a monstrosity this project is and clearly illustrates the problems with the design. They include the following:

  • The “Village Green” is so small as to be an insult to use the name “green.”
  • A visitor looking for parking enters blind, as they cannot see if any spaces are available inside.
  • The intersection is undesirable and poorly designed as one has to bend around to move through it.
  • The court yard is all parking and looks like an apartment complex in the Bronx. A tenant living in an apartment will look out the window and see someone else’s apartment, in addition to viewing black-top and parked cars.
  • Sound will echo loudly -- particularly at night.
  • Note also that the building grade is “wooden frame, stick-built,” the cheapest kind of construction allowed by law. This type of building creates noisy apartments and hallways, and is a virtual tinderbox compared to other construction grades.

Our plan for the Four Corners

First, stop the Mayor’s bad Plan

Obviously, the first plan of action is to stop the Mayor’s bad plan.

The approval of the Tritec’s amended plan was legally flawed.  These legal deficiencies provide the Village Board grounds to rescind the Board’s prior approval of the 291 unit apartment complex. 

If elected Mayor, I will work with fellow Village Board members to rescind the approval of the amended Tritec plan. Once Village Board approval is rescinded, Tritec is free to develop its initial plan for the Four Corners – the one with the hotel and additional parking, [vi] or work with us to come up with a better plan.

Work with the Developer to restore the initial plan, or towards a new mixed-use plan that will benefit Village residents and downtown small business owners.

I will utilize all legal and diplomatic means to work with Tritec’s representatives to effectuate the initial plan. If Tritec will not or cannot build the original plan, we will work to facilitate a plan acceptable to the developer, so long as it provides our Village with a true mixed use plan -- one that incorporates ideas which will benefit residents and our downtown small business owners.

Our team has already had preliminary conversations with potential investors for the Four Corners. Those investors include a hotel developer that has indicated its willingness to privately fund and construct a hotel. That hotel would be a quality project that can incorporate a restaurant on the top floor that will have panoramic views of the Great South Bay. If elected, I will work to see this hotel become a reality and introduce other prospective anchor businesses to the Tritec representatives. Potential investors in the Carnegie Library have also told us that they would revisit their proposals to the Village if the hotel plan is resurrected.

Our team is also exploring another creative concept that we feel should be considered for this property as an alternative to such a large percentage of rental units. “Industry clusters” are business and information technology incubators that are in growing demand. These true mixed-use projects combine commercial office space with amenities that attract young and talented entrepreneurs. Such a true mixed-use concept would not only draw young business talent to the area, but would also be less taxing on our parking and infrastructure and bring many jobs to our community.

If Tritec is unwilling to construct the initial approved plan, or is not willing to develop a better, more creative plan that is in the best interest of the Patchogue community, it can feel free to sell its properties, or develop them individually, subject to the law and Village Board approval. There is no legal requirement or practical reason why Tritec has to develop all of the property it chose to acquire as one major development.

There is also no legal reason why Tritec could not begin demolition of the unsafe and unsightly Swezey building immediately, regardless of the , and if the Mayor is concerned about the safety of that building that has been standing vacant his entire term, he should demand that they take immediate action to demolish it.

Summary

Mayor Pontieri has had 10 years (2 as Trustee, 8 as Mayor) to effectuate positive change on the Four Corners.

Mr. Pontieri has failed to deliver the plan he originally promised, and he has badly mishandled the amended one. He’s been the Mayor for eight years and the Four Corners is still undeveloped. It begs the question: Isn’t 8 years enough?

Rest assured when I become your Mayor, I will use my business experience to deliver a solution for the Four Corners that will incorporate the concerns of Village residents and small business owners, and one that will put Residents First.

The bottom line is that if I am elected Mayor, 291 apartment units will never be constructed on the Four Corners. Instead, I will fight for and attain a better, mixed-use plan that benefits the residents and surrounding small businesses and has their support.

 

[i] Think about it. What working family will pay $2,700.00 for a 3 bedroom apartment when they can rent a 5 bedroom house with a driveway and a private lawn for less in Patchogue Village?

[ii]See Tritec website, Mayor Pontieri’s recent defending Tritec

[iii] See Atlantic Magazine, August, 2008

[iv] See Governing Magazine

[v] The parking spaces the developer is currently claiming to “create” includes existing parking spots on Main Street that are currently available and which are already being used – that is one of the grounds of the lawsuit to stop the plan.

[vi] Tritec claims that there is not any hotel financing available at this time. They claim that it can only find financing for an apartment complex. This flies in the face of the fact that numerous hotels are being approved and constructed throughout Long Island and our discussions with a developer willing to privately finance a hotel on the Four Corners.

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Dennis Barone February 07, 2012 at 06:00 PM
Yeah I said it again Below is a quote from a post of a Pontieri Supporter: JoJoCfe Patchogue Patch...2:53 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012 "The bottom line is that I would rather have apartments that may turn into Section 8 housing..." Is that what we really want on our four corners???
JoJoCfe February 07, 2012 at 06:11 PM
Dennis, again you have not recognized the fact that you edited my comment. I am not the same person as Thomasmcm, just a person who only deals in facts and reality, unlike your world. Ms McGuire still does not have a firm concrete plan in place for the Four Corners and therefore, it will be empty another ten years. Is this what the residents of the Village want?
Dennis Barone February 07, 2012 at 07:17 PM
This is a DIRECT QUOTE from a Pontieri supporter. Probably someone close to his campaign ..."From JojoCfe The bottom line is that I would rather have apartments that may turn into Section 8 housing as you refer to, rather than a hotel that would turn into a rent a room by the hour..." Are you familiar with by the hour hotels because I don't see any of that in the plan. I reviewed the plan from both sides and I don't see it. Please tell me what makes you the expert in such things. Listen jojo you said you wanted section 8 on the four corners and thats the truth
Dennis Barone February 07, 2012 at 07:18 PM
Still no answers from pontieri's people... please answer the question...yes or no
Dennis Barone February 07, 2012 at 07:22 PM
better than 291 apartments ... apartments don;t pay taxes relevent to their use. No school taxes but a flat rate from the landlord...no inctease in property taxes except for a flat rate paid by the landlord...no benefit to the village residents at all. Maybe the businesses benefit but the residentsd don't
majortom1981 February 07, 2012 at 07:33 PM
Why is everybody saying a hotel would become a welfare hotel? Has anybody ever been to the new hotel in riverhead next to the aquarium .Its always sold out with gorgeous business type rooms. A hotel like that with conference space and a resteraunt in the four corners spot would be great.
Eric Randall February 07, 2012 at 09:06 PM
Paul Pontieri claimed he wanted a hotel. Did he change his mind? Because now his lackeys are on here posting that a hotel would be bad for Patchogue. Which is it?
Dennis Barone February 07, 2012 at 09:20 PM
Him and his lackys will want anything that will benefit them. They are not worried about the residents they swore to protect. If you doubt me see Ferbs letter in the patch about the poll.
Dennis Barone February 07, 2012 at 09:24 PM
Still no answers from pontieri's people... please answer the question...yes or no
Bob February 08, 2012 at 12:53 AM
JoJo You sound like just like Triteck and Paul Pontieri “291 apartments or nothing”!
Bob February 08, 2012 at 12:56 AM
This is from Tritec’s own website. And there is also hotel construction in Yaphank, Riverhead and Sag Harbor. What’s the deal TRITEC? Groundbreaking for a new hotel in Carle Place 11/29/11 TRITEC Hospitality, Inc. broke ground on a new Homewood Suites in Carle Place for developer AVR-Carle Place Associates. Construction of this new hotel is projected to create 39 new permanent jobs, 70 construction jobs and generate more than $15 million in economic activity for Nassau County. The limited services hotel will have 150 rooms and is schedule to open in January of 2013.
Mary Kassner February 08, 2012 at 01:08 AM
Even Tritec knows there are NO benefits to NewVillage@ Patchogue Click on the benefits tab and you will see it is empty! http://www.newvillagepatchogue.com/home There are NO benefits to NewVillage@ Patchogue
Someone observing February 09, 2012 at 05:14 PM
The "Four Corners" of ANY American Main Street should be the epicenter of the town it exists in. A hotel or apartments DO not define the epicenter of a town. Both sides are erroneously expecting this developer to reinvent Patchogue. Sayville is a neighboring town, surviving is this dreadful economy. What do you see on Sayville's Main St.? A hotel? Apartments? You sure do NOT! Patchogue, however, is either vacant or filled with pawn shops and restaurants (restaurants that change hands often). All parties involved need to reset their agendas and spend some time observing and learning from some of the more successful communities in order to begin healing your own. A band aid won't help.
Wendy Blake February 15, 2012 at 05:19 AM
Unless something has changed since I lived on Bay Ave, only the west side of the street is in the village. The east side of Bay Ave is Brookhaven Town.
Wendy Blake February 15, 2012 at 05:41 AM
I guess I am glad I no longer live in Patchogue Village for I would surely be vilified simply for being a renter. Oh my how horrific. Hmmm..Yep..A renter who was active in the Bay Elementary PTA for several years, including spending a year as a PTA President. A renter who not only went to Village Board meetings, but one who also spoke up and who, at one point, led a community action to stop a new SRO from coming to Patchogue Village. A renter who took pride in her residence. A renter who helped found The Patchogue Village Civic Association (I don't think it exists anymore). A renter who was active in and cared about her community. A renter who ultimately bought a home outside the village due to exactly the type of attitude that some of the comments above espouse. Yes Mrs. McGowan your attitude is elitist. I would hate to think that I wouldn't be welcomed back into Patchogue Village simply because I choose to rent rather than own, yet that is exactly what your position indicates. You should change the sign to say " Welcome to Patchogue Village, but only if you own your home."
Elisabeth McGuire February 15, 2012 at 04:35 PM
Hi Ms. Blake, I know you said you no longer live here, but I just saw your comment and felt compelled to reply. To clarify, I have nothing against people who rent. For some people, renting is a much smarter option than owning for many reasons. I rented for years and may choose to rent again someday. Many of my friends and family members rent. My point is that we are already saturated with rentals in our community and do not need 291 rental units on Main Street. Unlike some other communities on Long Island that are cited in the housing studies, we have plenty of available and affordable rental housing and a larger percentage of rental apartments and houses than surrounding towns. The 4 corners property is ill equipped for 291 apartments and the parking plan is woefully inadequate. I do not believe the rents they are asking can be sustained in our Village, and I've seen the damage that Absentee Landlords and Section 8 housing have done already to parts of our community. We do not need more density. We need to drive business, create jobs and economic engines that will fuel our downtown economy. We do not need to settle for the current plan of 291 apartments, and most residents I speak to do not want them. They may benefit the developer Tritec's bottom line, but they will not benefit our residents or surrounding small businesses in the long term. This is the consensus I am getting from the community, and this is my personal belief as well. Best Regards, Liz McGuire
good taste February 15, 2012 at 04:37 PM
THANK YOU for presenting your plans for dealing with Tritec. I am so relieved that you know what needs to be done to stop the apartments. Some people are saying that the plan has been approved and the apartments will go up. I HOPE NOT!! I CAN imagine the bulk of SEVEN BUILDINGS THE SIZE OF ART SPACE on the corner of Main Street. Downtown Sayville and Bellport are charming. We don't have to be charming but we can be "handsome", "dignified" or "interesting". Those horrible plans from Tritec are just "cheap" looking. We should expect and demand more for our village. Liz is not elitist she is intelligent. Make the intelligent choice for our town and for our government.
Ed Ihne February 15, 2012 at 07:15 PM
I agreed that a Hotel combined with retail and offices is what is needed for our Four Corners. New retail construction would attract national retailers and a new office complex adjoining a Hotel would benefit the village and not be a burden. If there is a need for more apartments in the Village of Patchogue, why must it be in the heart of the downtown business district, Suffolk's Famous Four Corners. Parking at times is at a premium without an event at the Patchogue Theater and the businesses heavily rely on ample parking. With a hotel many patrons arrive by various means of transportation, and not all would have a need for parking. If they did park, it might be for a day or two not 365 days a year as a tenant in an apartment would need. If parking is eliminated for businesses in the downtown business district, they will relocate elsewhere in order to exist. We should keep the village in Patchogue and the city in Manhattan. A Tritec project might fill a void that some think the village needs, but not at the Famous Four Corners, there are other areas in the village that could properly handle a project this size without placing a burden on all. An example would be across from the new YMCA/Briarcliff College on the south side of Main Street. Parking in the downtown business district should never be reduced, restricted or eliminated.
JoJoCfe February 19, 2012 at 07:43 PM
You refer to the "Famous Four Corners", yet currently the fours corners are comprised of two pawn shops and an empty rental. Am I missing something?
Lee February 20, 2012 at 11:37 PM
There were about six years when the original members of "Patchogue First" actually helped to improve the village, not ruin it. It is the current, deal that the mayor has made with the devil, oops, I mean Tritec, that will ruin our Main Street. Please Paul, don't do this!! Revise the plan.
good taste March 03, 2012 at 03:44 AM
This posting by Mrs.McGuire is what everyone who opposes the 291 apartments on the Four Corners should be reading. If you are not sure who to vote for, read this posting. It presents a detailed plan and vision for our Four Corners. The posting is very long so if you don't want to read the whole thing then scroll down to the section with the caption "Section 8" and read from there to the end. I can't understand how anyone can support such a dense apartment complex on Main Street. In my opinion, Patchogue 2012 doesn't really like Tritec's offer, they have just given up and think that it's the only game in town. If they are just worn out and can't fight for a better plan, then let Residents First have a go at it.
johnny March 03, 2012 at 01:18 PM
I guess you didn't grow up in patchogue other wise you would know the history.
good taste March 03, 2012 at 04:30 PM
If you are planning to vote for Patchogue 2012, please read my comment from March 2, 2012 and then read Mrs. McGuire's posting [or at least the end of it]. If you continue to want the P2012 team, please pressure them to negotiate with Tritec for a better plan. If you oppose the 291 apartments please don't split the vote by voting for Mr. Evans. He does not have a realistic plan. He cannot just dismiss Tritec, they own the property and have to be negotiated with.
Frank Finnamore March 13, 2012 at 02:41 PM
The 291 Four Corners apartments are a major concern, but what about the other overlooked concerns. Many of our streets have not been paved in over 30 years, and the last eight years we were promised that they would be. Emphasis is always on "Main Street" and multifamily developments, not us the residents that are the backbone of the community. Grant money is always obtained for the commercial properties, not for us such as the sewer upgrade grant. The upgrade was to extend the sewers along East Main Street into East Patchogue, for the new multifamily construction projects and business usage. It would be nice to see roads repaved with curbs and sidewalks like it is in hundreds of communities on Long Island that are in and out of village jurisdications. The only road paving projects performed recently were due to sewer main installations to new construction projects and restaurants, not for us in the residential areas. Please tell me what your plan is to address this area of concern for us.
Elisabeth McGuire March 13, 2012 at 05:01 PM
Hi Mr. Finnamore, I have heard your exact same sentiment from many residents while walking the Village during the past several weeks. I happen to agree with you. I have spoken to homeowners in quite a few residential neighborhoods within the Village who feel that they have become the "forgotten few" while the Village has become focused primarily on the development of high density housing initiatives. We need to reserve the funding and implement a comprehensive plan to systematically fix all of our roads (starting with those that need it the most), repair our sidewalks and address our quality of life issues, such as street flooding and drainage. We also need to address the existing housing enforcement issues in our community before we layer on more density in an already saturated housing market and further strain our infrastructure. Looking forward to seeing everyone at Thursday night's debate! Best Regards, Liz McGuire
JoJoCfe March 13, 2012 at 05:48 PM
I hope you are ready to answer the big question at the debate. What are your exact plans for the old Swezey's building? Letting it look like that for another 10 years?
Frank Finnamore March 13, 2012 at 06:04 PM
I guess you want apartments, but the majority of residents want the original plan. Tritec obtained over 5.7 millions dollars in State and County Grants for that plan, but for some unknown reason it was switched to 291 apartments. Tritec can revert back to its own original design and plans and start construction tomorrow without any public or political opposition. Maybe you know why this plan was changed at the last minute and approved by the village officials without any explanations. Just try to construct an addition to your home and you will have more red tape that this project, which makes it more troubling how this was done without knowing why.
good taste March 13, 2012 at 07:33 PM
JoJpCfe This posting EXPLAINS Mrs. McGuire's plans for the Four Corners--THAT INCLUDES the Swezey building. READ the posting!
cresten March 13, 2012 at 11:30 PM
Jojo has blinders on.
Bob March 14, 2012 at 10:32 AM
Leave it to the limousine liberals at Newsday to support the Triec plan. Those members of the Newsday editorial board never met a high density housing project they didn’t like. Easy to write about these things from gated communities in exclusive sections of Nassau and Suffolk. Patchogue residents know that this is a bad project for the community.

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