E. Patchogue Walmart Decision Coming Early 2012

Public comment on the store is being accepted by Town through Jan. 19.

A decision on a proposed East Patchogue Walmart is finally set for early 2012.

At Monday’s Town of Brookhaven Planning meeting at , it was announced that the next board meeting and public comment session on the will take place on Jan. 9.

Written comments will be accepted until Jan. 19.

Jack Krieger, a Town of Brookhaven spokesman, said that following the close of the public hearing, the Town has 45 days to prepare the Final Environmental Impact Statement (FEIS). The FEIS must them be accepted by a majority vote.

During the meeting itself, a new Draft Environmental Impact Study (DEIS) on the proposed Hospital Road-located store was received by the Town of Brookhaven Planning Board for review. Krieger said the study should be posted on the Town of Brookhaven’s website around Dec. 2.

Philip Serghini, a Walmart spokesman, said that the store will bring jobs to the area should it go through.

“This proposal has been pending since 2008 so we hope we’re finally close to bringing needed jobs to the area, as well as the unbeatable prices Walmart offers to working families,” Serghini said.

However the store is facing much from local businesses and residents.

“I will probably lose 50 percent of my business. It’s not good,” Raj Bajaj, owner of Patchogue’s , .

During his campaign to be re-elected Town Supervisor, Mark Lesko said that the proposed Hospital Road location is inappropriate for Walmart due to the street’s small bridge.

“To rebuild the Hospital Road bridge, you’re basically talking about a $20 million project, and that’s not going to happen,” Lesko said at a . “I think there are more appropriate places if Walmart wants to come to that area- the Bellport Outlets, or maybe the old Brookhaven Cinema site.”

Walmart officials released a statement in June stating that it significantly reduced the size of the proposed store to under 100,000 square feet in order to reduce the traffic impact. Walmart had originally planned to build a 108,000 square-foot store, but it was forced to reassess to the smaller size after Brookhaven Town . Walmart also stated that it was working with the Town on widening the bridge and that the property owner had contributed $357,730 toward that effort.

BillLongisland January 02, 2012 at 09:09 PM
Well that's what you expect don't you ?
BillLongisland January 02, 2012 at 09:10 PM
What does Ohio have to do with this...I thought we were on Long Island ?
BillLongisland January 02, 2012 at 09:11 PM
About the illegals, Yes, it is Right and Everyone is Paying for it...but your School District Bleeding Hearts don't want you to know about it !
Patchogue January 02, 2012 at 09:26 PM
I read the EIS by Walmart. They give no information. An EIS is not a shakedown. That is a bad location for a Walmart. You'll never get over that bridge and people will die because they did not make it to the hospital on time, but Walmart doesnt care about that. Bill, you comments are way off base. You sound like a Walmart shill.
Patchogue resident January 02, 2012 at 10:48 PM
So it looks like the majority dont want this Walmart built. Where can we send out written comments saying we are against this idea?
Patchogue January 02, 2012 at 11:16 PM
This is the town employee where the comments go to. If you have any questions or comments feel free to e-mail me or call at (631) 451-6455. Sincerely, Michael J. Albano Environmental Analyst Michael J. Albano Environmental Analyst Division of Environmental Protection Town of Brookhaven One Independence Hill Farmingville, NY 11738 (631) 451-6455
BillLongisland January 03, 2012 at 05:42 AM
It's funny...it seems to be Always a "bad location" for a Wal Mart on Long Island. Excepting for Any Other business ? Between the local policians and the labor unions who they have "sweetheart" kickback deals going with their union dues into Local Pol "campaign contribution" coffers, The Fix Is In, and the ones being hurt are Property Tax Payers who have to "fund" these Shake Down Artistes all the time.
BillLongisland January 03, 2012 at 06:02 AM
Comments are going right into Albano's waste basket...if there is no "taste" in it for the Crookhaven Town Board and John Powell, Any Project disappears !
BillLongisland January 03, 2012 at 06:07 AM
You know the "EIS" is a Crock, when the socalled tools of Local Pols...the "civic associations" use it against Tax Payers... ABCO is pleased to join and urge other local civics and grassroot organizations in assisting the coordinated work with the Bellport Chamber of Commerce to Stop a Walmart in East Patchogue The Bellport Chamber of Commerce is taking a more active role in fighting Walmart in East Patchogue. Please help us. See the flyer below - we are fundraising so we can: 1) do a mailing to the area residents 2) print signage 3) advertise in local newspapers to get the word out 4) Hire a wildlife and ecosystem engineer to establish what species will be bulldozed if this goes thru 5)Hire a Rare plant specialist to establish what rare plant species will be affected At a minimum, we are requesting that our Planning Board request from Walmart a supplemental Environmental Study be performed as the current EIS accepted as complete is grossly lacking in how this proposed Walmart will affect the Ecology, Traffic and Climate Change of the area. Monday January 9th 2012 is the FINAL public hearing with our Brookhaven Town Planning Board http://abcoonline.org/
BillLongisland January 04, 2012 at 06:49 AM
"the majority" in the Town of Brookhaven means the Town Board Members, the County "legislator" and the State "legislator" who are getting a "taste" of the land transaction. All of these parties "make the problems go away" when they get the appropriate "campaign contribution" and All The Usual facilitating parties of The Deal...real estate brokers, straw men "developers", lawyers, etc. get their "taste". NOTHING happens in Brookhaven unless this happens. The zoning process, the "EIS", the public hearings, etc., is a charade known as "political kabuki theater" and it's Nothing else. The Public, at large, is left out, notwithstanding the Tax Payer Dollars that goes to fund these Performances. And of course, John Powell has to be...ahem..."consulted" and passes on it.
Jo January 07, 2012 at 09:10 PM
OH BROTHER! Don't we have enough retailers how about some real companies that create sustainable careers that people can survive on? In a time where people are running huge debts should a new patio set or another pair of cheap jeans really be on the visa. Let's get real, how many people will really work at Walmart as a career with the average 1 bedroom apt at $1200/month in Suffolk? Folks will supplement their income working there because they can't afford to live on LI. Has anyone read about the coal miners who got paid in company money only good to use at the company store? If we do not expect more as a community will never be taken seriously and will always be "Walmart type of people". If this Big Box is built our home values (the biggest purchase of my life), safety and traffic concerns trump saving a penny for something I most likely don't need! THIS LOCATION IS TERRIBLE AND WILL BE A SAFETY HAZARD! Not only that we the tax payers will end up paying for road improvements and bridge expansion just so Wal-Mart can make money. I know my taxes go up but paying for a company to generate revenue and kill my neighborhood I cringe! I don't Walmart giving us free stock shares! I have a hard time swallowing low cost savings that really cost us the tax payer money!
Jo January 07, 2012 at 09:10 PM
I have lived here for some years and love my home but if Wal-Mart comes, I pray I will never need emergency vehicle because I doubt it will get to the hospital in a timely fashion. And If I ever do sell hopefully no one will visit when it rains because the smell from the dump is terrible and a giant Walmart with people throwing their garbage up and down the street will surely be a sale killer!
Jo January 07, 2012 at 09:22 PM
PLEASE JOIN THE REAL FIGHT on Monday Jan 9th at the Brookhaven Town Hall. 4pm. We need folks to speak out about this terrible location. We as a group are not against Walmart as a company per say but against having a big box retailer placed where it has NO BUSINESS GOING. Contact us at EPWALMARTFREE@aol.com Together we can build a stronger and smarter community! Put people to work by planning and creating sustainable career opportunities. A Walmart on Hospital Rd will not do this for us.
Pat January 08, 2012 at 03:44 PM
Bill: you asked him for an instance where this happened, while it is true that Ohio has different state laws, Craig delivered what you asked for. This entire thread you have been spouting talking points and changing the subject when you don't like what is said. I haven't decided on the issue yet, but your political maneuvering really turns me off to your side of the debate. It sounds more and more like you are using distraction and disinformation to get your point across. If it's not too much trouble, I would love to hear why you support the East Patchogue Walmart. As well as your opinions on 1) The bridge widening to allow traffic flow(est. cost 15-20m) 2) The tradeoff between local businesses and new jobs 3) The location and whether it is the best choice for local residents If you are uncomfortable sharing your beliefs publicly then feel free to message me privately. Also, please stop capitalizing words in an attempt to Prod my Subconscious into agreeing with you; neuro-linguistic programming is a pseudoscience.
BillLongisland January 08, 2012 at 05:13 PM
Pat, my words characterizing the Charade going on here by Brookhaven regarding Wal Mart, should upset you, but, unfortunately, it is an accurate picture of how this town works. Voters and Tax Payers have No Vote in this process...and you know it. This is a Fake Dance by the Town about Wal Mart is tiresome, Apparently, John Powell and the Players, from your Village Pols, to the Town Board rep, all the way to the State Legislator, are not getting a "taste" from Wal Mart...or not enough of a "taste"...public Opinion doesn't matter on this issue...never did. Substance, meaning what the public wants, has no place in their discussion with Wal Mart.
Pat January 08, 2012 at 07:40 PM
So you're saying that apathy is the stance that people should take because it doesn't matter anyway? Not only did you not answer any of my questions, but you continued in the vague Orwellian paranoid talk that I was asking you to clarify in the first place. There are two possibilities: 1) You're right and nothing the people say or do can change anything. Then why are you even wasting your time trying to disillusion those of us who still believe in the democratic process? 2) You're wrong and people can make a difference in how elected officials act. In which case your talk actually works against the progress you wistfully long for, less people speaking out means less input for politicians to act on. Either way, I would love to hear your thoughts on my earlier questions, even if they don't mean anything in the long run.
Mindy January 08, 2012 at 07:49 PM
THIS LETTER WAS SENT TO ALL THE GREATER PATCHOGUE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE MEMBERS For those who are unaware, Wal-Mart is in negotiations to open a new 98,000 sq ft Store on Hospital Road in East Patchogue. Most local Business Owners are against this "Box Store" joining our Community for a myriad of reasons. This shifting of consumer shopping patterns to a single Superstore will ultimately be destructive to our small Businesses and local Chain Stores because we will no longer be able to compete in a monopolized market. What will happen if Wal-Mart comes to town? As our sales decline, Businesses will close or have to lay off employees. These individuals will then be forced to take part time positions at Wal-Mart for lower pay with reduced or no benefits or will be forced to join the already staggering percentage of unemployed in our country. For every two jobs Wal-Mart creates, three good paying jobs are lost in that Community. According to a study in Social Science Quarterly, U. S. counties that had more Wal-Mart stores in 1987, had a higher poverty rate in 1999 than did counties that started the period with fewer or no Wal-Mart stores.
Mindy January 08, 2012 at 07:52 PM
On January 9th at 5:00 pm, there will be a Town of Brookhaven Planning meeting at Brookhaven Town Hall. PLEASE JOIN YOUR FELLOW CHAMBER MEMBERS AS A UNIFIED FORCE. Written comments will also be accepted until Jan. 19. CHAMBER MEMBERS- PLEASE SEND YOUR LETTERS TO OR JUST FORWARD THIS ONE WITH YOUR SIGNATURE INSTEAD OF MINE!! Mindy Skura President
Mindy January 08, 2012 at 07:53 PM
WalMart entering our community will also mean a decrease in money being spent around the Greater Patchogue area- at our Businesses. We will be faced with declining property values from closed stores, lessening our tax base, resulting in increased infrastructure and police costs, and a greater strain on emergency services for the rest of us. Public health care expenditures rise as the County must make up for Wal-Mart's lack of an affordable health plan for it's employees. Traffic and pollution will increase, and the essential character of OUR Community, which was built over decades, may be lost. It has also been shown, that 72 to 84 percent of Sales Tax generated by a Wal-Mart is merely shifted from the cash registers of downsized or closed competitors in the area. Additionally, Wal-mart is the largest importer of Chinese goods, forcing the closing of US Manufacturers and making us even more dependent on China. The proposal has been pending since 2008 because they have chosen a location that is primarily residential, and the Hospital Road Bridge is too small to accommodate the increased traffic. Walmart has stated that it was working with the Town on widening the bridge and that the property owner had contributed $357,730 toward that effort The proposed cost to replace the Bridge is 20 million dollars. Does that mean we, the Taxpayer, will be responsible for the 19 million dollar shortfall?
Mindy January 08, 2012 at 07:54 PM
You may send an email to Brenda Prusinowski, Deputy Commissioner of Planning, Environment & Land Management. Ask her to forward your message to Vincent Pascale, Chairman. Send emails to bprusinowski@brookhaven.org. I was also given the name of Michael Albano, a reviewer. His email address is malbano@brookhaven.org.
BillLongisland January 08, 2012 at 08:57 PM
Pat, The Powers That Be in the Town of Brookhaven offices on Independence Hill have people on full time Tax Payer salary monitoring these forums, and they are rubbing their grubby little hands together with Glee at your naive attitudes.
Patchogue January 08, 2012 at 11:42 PM
According to a study in Social Science Quarterly, U. S. counties that had more Wal-Mart stores in 1987, had a higher poverty rate in 1999 than did counties that started the period with fewer or no Wal-Mart stores."
Patchogue January 08, 2012 at 11:48 PM
Wal Mart: The High Cost Of Low Price- Full Length Documentary http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hftb_DVuelo When a Walmart opens, small businesses close, and people will die at that location due to the hospital, so you can save $0.10 on peanut butter?
Christopher Mancini January 09, 2012 at 02:19 AM
As I have said before and I'll say it agian ........ The propsed location is just WRONG!!! But I suspect that this is going to happen. After all...... THIS IS the Town Of CROOKHAVEN!!! I am MORE THEN SURE that Arnold Wolowitz (the owner of Labonne Vie) has greased the palms of ALL the POLITICIANS at Brookhaven town hall. Probably greased the politicians from Suffolk County too!! Arnold and all the politicians DO NOT CARE!!!! THEY DON"T LIVE HERE!!! I am saying this to ALL THE POLITICIANS INVOLVED with this....... IF YOU APROVE THIS..... You will have to live with the decision and it's effects of how it will ruin the Eat Patchogue Hospital area!!!!
greatsouthbay January 09, 2012 at 03:43 AM
How is John Powell involved in this..? Just curious. The recent Suffolk County Sunrise Hwy Corridor study does not recommend retail for this location, the study is available on-line. The impact on traffic is greatest from retail.
greatsouthbay January 09, 2012 at 03:50 AM
I shop in the village frequently and do not see where Wal-mart would impact the sales at stores like Blums, The Colony Shop, Irish Crossings etc. These are all speciality shops with merchandise that a Walmart cannot provide. We already have Costco, Target and Sam's Club in the vicinity. I am not in favor of the location but do not see how it will negatively impact Patchogue's downtown.
Carol Reitz-Butler January 09, 2012 at 01:25 PM
There are a lot of comments here regarding the feasibility of WalMart repurposing Bellport Outets' unsued space. This will never happen as WalMart prefers to break new ground b/c there is an archaic NYS tax provision that benefits companies that do so. Tax breaks will always trump environmental comcerns for this company. I own a specialty shop on Patchogue Village's Main Street, and it's true that WalMart would not affect my sales directly. The harm comes from the fact that the Village, in spite of its many great strides in the past few years, still needs more shops in its mix to be a truly viable shopping and social center. The presence of a nearby WalMart will dissuade new businesses from opening in town and jeopardize the struggling few there now.
Jo January 11, 2012 at 03:46 AM
YIPPPPEEE Carol you hit the nail on the head! All this talk about tax revenue for the area, what a crock! The fact is $$$$ buys manipulation of our zoning and traffic laws. Simply if this passes it is a clear and loud signal that WE THE PEOPLE OF THE COMMUNITY don't mean s-- t to our Elected officials and Planning Board! As for last night, it was sad to see people bussed in from La Bonne Vi to support the project. They were promised a night out and got a roast beef sandwich, blue bag, poster and to sit at a town hall meeting for hours. Sad that Walmart treats their valued supporters/customers like circus animals. Also just to note, last night The Planning Board stated Walmart would need to remove the sidewalks on the Hospital Rd bridge for a turning lane. They mentioned that as an example it was done in Bellport Outlets. Look how well the outlets did they are thriving right!!!!!! So there is some brain power at work! SCARY!
Jo January 11, 2012 at 04:01 AM
GET A LAWN SIGN OR WINDOW SIGN "NO WALMART" just email epwalmartfree@aol.com
BillLongisland January 21, 2012 at 05:46 AM
It's called "the Free Market Economy"...if you don't like it, go to Venezuela, because you would be much happier there.


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