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Opposition to New Village Project Tops on Residents First Platform

Former Patchogue First party seeks changes to New Village project, Village government and lower taxes.

Patchogue Village Mayor Paul Pontieri has the New Village project a "$100 million investment" in the community that will generate jobs, bring in revenue and save a blighted corner.

Elisabeth McGuire, running for mayor this year on the Residents First banner, says the project could "lead to the long term demise of our Village" and she is a member of a group which has filed that have stalled construction on the massive development at the Four Corners.

Ever since the Board of Trustees 4-3 to approve the project last March, the debate over the project has only picked up steam and now with Village elections just a couple months away, it's one of the defining points of difference between the two political parties seeking office. 

The Residents First party, formally known as Patchogue First, is anchored by McGuire running for mayor, with a trustee candidate slate of incumbent Stephen McGiff, as well as Greg Powers and Lisa Ihne.

The Residents First platform is based on making significant changes to Village government and high-density housing initiatives.

While kicking off her last week, McGuire said she would propose changing the project, which is slated to include 291-apartments, 40,000 square feet of retail and office space, into a compromise plan to meet what she states are “the critical needs of our residents and surrounding small businesses, and ensure adequate parking and traffic flow.”

McGuire also proposes to drastically reduce the , which is $36,000. Trustees currently earn $12,000. Pontieri that the Village Board of Trustees unanimously voted for both increases.

McGuire said, if elected, she planned to cut taxes, while also increasing Village services for its residents.

“Our residents pay more in taxes than residents outside the Village and deserve enhanced services like the preferred resident parking offered in Port Jefferson,” McGuire said in her speech.

She also proposes increased objective code enforcement and a change in management at the .

“I am very proud of the slate of candidates we assembled and am looking forward to talking to the residents and hearing their concerns,” McGuire said in a statement to Patch. “I am confident we have the skills and the professional experience necessary to bring Patchogue to the next level."

McGuire and McGiff formally were working with Pontieri as part of the Patchogue First political party with incumbent trustees Jack Krieger and Lori Devlin. The party ran together in 2004 and unopposed in the 2008 mayoral election. This ended during the summer of 2011, and was publicly announced in a written by McGiff and Village Trustee Gerard Crean that blasted the mayor on a number of issues they had with Pontieri.

McGiff said that he chose not to run for mayor under the Residents First banner in order to show that his previous actions were not politically motivated.

“I didn’t want people to say that my actions were political that I wanted to be mayor. I told Paul last year that I had no desire to be mayor and that I wasn’t making this break for personal reasons,” McGiff told Patch at the Residents First candidate announcement.

Pontieri said at his that while he isn’t opposed to competition, he believed the other side was putting a lot of personal focus on him and not on its own platform.

“There is nothing wrong with elections, there is nothing wrong with the debate," Pontieri said, "but the debate should be about issues. The problem is they have made the debate about people, they haven’t made it about about issues."

Both the Residents First and Patchogue 2012 parties may also face competition from the NU (Now United) Village party, which is yet to announce candidates but has posted its principles on its website. 

The election, which will take place on March 20, will have two types of votes. The mayoral campaign, which will take place between Pontieri, McGuire, and the NU Village candidate will be one election.

All trustee candidates are in a separate election and the top-three vote getters will receive a seat. Incumbent trustees Lori Devlin and Jack Krieger, as well as Tom Ferb are running on the Patchogue 2012 ticket.

BillLongisland January 22, 2012 at 10:35 AM
Is the Central Islip US Attorney's Office watching this ?
Richard Kemp January 22, 2012 at 10:07 PM
Mr.Bogack: Yes I have filed FOIL requests,my objective is usually to find out the TRUTH regarding specific matters you are incorrect in your statement that the Village Clerk,the Village Attorney,as FOIL APPEALS OFFICER and any others have made the effort to comply with the LAW.
Richard Kemp January 22, 2012 at 10:26 PM
Bob: Wonder what happens if there is a dead tie vote????? It did occur in Bellport Village within the past 10 years Just ask former Patchogue Village Attorney Lee Snead who finally won by 1 vote after 2 recounts by Bellport Village Clerk and finally the Suffolk County Board of Elections were brought in. I wonder what the Policy is in Patchogue Village if any exists??????????????
Patchogue January 22, 2012 at 10:30 PM
http://www.ridgefieldplayhouse.org/ The Ridgefield CT playhouse which is the same sizeas Patchogue has much better acts and is a movie theater also.
Patchogue January 22, 2012 at 10:31 PM
http://www.ridgefieldplayhouse.org/
Patchogue January 22, 2012 at 10:33 PM
Patchogue should be comparable.
John Bogack January 22, 2012 at 11:12 PM
A tie vote. I doubt it. I think this is going to go one way or the other, either in with the new, or out with the old. But Mr. Kemp sounds like a good question to ask tomorrow night.
John Bogack January 22, 2012 at 11:15 PM
Caught myself on that one. It's either stay the course, or in with the new. That's the way I think the election is going to go.
Richard Kemp January 23, 2012 at 12:03 AM
Mr.Bogack : Yes I have filed a number of FOIL Requests over the years.Usually to seek out the TRUTH and sometimes the reasoning as to why certain things are done Give credit where it is due ,you have got to be kidding me !!!!!!!!!! Clerk Seal,andThe Foil Appeals Officer,who is Attorney Egan have not been doing such a good job as you suggest in paragraph 3 of your comments.
Bob January 23, 2012 at 01:41 AM
There is no way Mrs. Seale can be fair in this election. She told Stephen McGiff and Gerald Crean that they were despicable for exposing the Mayor's dirty deeds. How is she supposed to be objective? As village clerk she's not supposed to be screaming and crying and defending the mayor, she's supposed to be quiet and do her job. She reports to the taxpayers and not to Paul Pontieri but she hasn't figured that out yet.
John Bogack January 23, 2012 at 01:38 PM
Facts and fairness should be our guides for judging those who have pulled off an economic miracle in the Village of Patchogue. Before I call any one a criminal it will only after that conclusion is reached by a court of law not the court of public opinion. I have great respect for all the trustees involved in what is now a very difficult time for the village. I look forward to what the Comptroller's report may say about some of the allegations that have been made, and perhaps sadly what the DA might also have to say as well. Until that time though whether it is Trustee McGiff, or Mayor Pontieri or others in my book they deserve recognition for lifting the village out of economic depression and collectively putting it on the right course. What has been lost is that the Board has been trying to find solutions to issues raised by Trustee McGiff, late though they may have been. He has actually been very successful in highlighting issues that needed remedial action that ultimately did occur. It's a political judgement whether those steps were enough. Soon the voters of the village will decide that for themselves.
Susan Cosgrove January 24, 2012 at 03:20 AM
Economic miracle? Anyone can let apartment and condo developers in and take over the village. That's no miracle that's Long Island. No one has been able to demonstrate that Triteck has secured their financing and I believe that the riverwalk will eventually go rental. Too much housing. Becoming Hempstead is no economic miracle.
Gregory P Powers January 24, 2012 at 05:00 AM
Residents First cordially invites you to a brunch to support our candidates. Elisabeth McGuire for Mayor, Lisa Ihne for Trustee, Gregory Powers for Trustee, Stephen McGiff for Trustee Located at Patchogue Lodge of Elks 14 Oak St, Patchogue, NY 11772-2878 $50 per person-$75 per couple Children 12 and under Free Checks should be made out to Residents First, Contact 631-335-6188
Gregory P Powers January 24, 2012 at 05:13 AM
http://www.facebook.com/ResidentsFirst http://www.facebook.com/events/292765280771586/
Gregory P Powers January 24, 2012 at 02:10 PM
Sunday, January 29, 2012. From11:00am until 1:00pm. Residents First cordially invites you to a brunch to support our candidates. Elisabeth McGuire for Mayor, Lisa Ihne for Trustee, Gregory Powers for Trustee, Stephen McGiff for Trustee $50 per person-$75 per couple Children 12 and under Free Checks should be made out to Residents First Contact 631-335-6188
george February 02, 2012 at 12:39 AM
HEAR HEAR..
Fred Diekmann February 02, 2012 at 03:26 AM
Over and over again, a small number of people keep posting how no one wants the apartments that Tritec was approved for, or how they have been shoved down our throats. I'm not 100% sold on the idea of 291 apartments at the 4 corners but to say that no one wants them is simply not true. I was at the meeting when the plan was approved and the vast majority of the people in the room applauded the decision. The Patchogue 2012 Facebook page has 300+ likes. One would have to assume that the majority of those people, supporting the mayors reelection, approve of the plan. Similarly, there are people who much prefer to drive or walk past Copper Beech, Artspace, and Bay Village as opposed to the blight that previously existed in those areas.
cresten February 02, 2012 at 11:30 AM
Still no on the 291 apts.! We can and should do better !
BillLongisland February 02, 2012 at 12:05 PM
As usual, they will trim down the amount of apartments, and "slide it through". The Fix Is In.
The Village Idiot February 10, 2012 at 02:55 PM
Dennis Barone, I qoute you... "I did my job and at that time the housing department did its job" . The job that was done sparked a 600 million dollar law suit that cost the village thousands of dollars to mend (in the six digits). It raised insurance premiums and cost was passed to village residents. These are facts look em people....Hypocrite!
John Bogack February 10, 2012 at 03:32 PM
I am not sure what these references are to a past issue involving Mr. Barone. Could some more details be provided about "the six hundred dollar law suit that cost the village thousands of dollars to amend...." I would like to know more about this. Some more information would be helpful.
The Original Village Idiot February 12, 2012 at 06:19 PM
Dear John, Please F.O.I.L. village minutes records for 2000, 2001 2002, 2003 in addition, insurance premiums and chances in carriers you will see the anomaly. Basically. The Village settled out of court after the Lawyers bleed out their fees and few bucks went to the landlords who filed the suit. It took 1.5 yrs for them to settled something they could have settled within the first 3 months. If want more information FOIL the law suit court papers that describe the law suit. If you want any more information about Mr. Barone, ask any landlord in the Village for their oppinon. ps in addition, FOIL court minutes from 1996 to 1999 interesting reading.....
John Bogack February 12, 2012 at 06:27 PM
Researching the 600 million dollar suit could cost me a couple a hundred dollars in FOIL fees. So as I am interested in this past history I will ask around and see if I can find the facts without having to get a second mortage to pay for the privilege of finding them. Thanks at least for giving me a time line.
The Original Village Idiot February 12, 2012 at 06:39 PM
Your welcome....
cresten February 12, 2012 at 11:54 PM
I'd rather hear from the original village idiots sire
Richard Kemp February 13, 2012 at 07:06 PM
Mr.Bogack:Wouldn't you rather research the "WOODS CASE" from 2006-2007. I have 11 pages including Judge Spatt ruling dated July 27,2006 Docket No.01-CV-0229 (ADS) Maybe tonight we will find out what happens in Patchogue Village in the event of a Dead Tie Vote..!!!!
John Bogack February 13, 2012 at 08:56 PM
Mr. Kemp. I might be interested in knowing what the Woods case was about but I don't know anything about it. Since you have documents in your possession why not simply provide a summary for information and discussion. As for the issue of a tie vote in the upcoming elections you can use your time to find out as I have suggested before. I guess it's possible so knowing in advance about what happens if that occurs is worthwhile.
Bob February 14, 2012 at 02:40 AM
mr. kemp I would not ask the court clerk seal as she is real emotional about mayor paul. the village attorney’s mother mrs. egan is also very biased and a big mayor paul fan. Probably because her baby boy makes the big bucks working for him. I thought she was going to give me the finger when she thought I put a residents first sign up on my lawn (I didn’t).
good taste February 15, 2012 at 04:34 AM
The real issue here is not a "Residents First" or a "Patchogue 2012" sign on our lawns, it is stopping that monstrosity of an apartment building from going up on one of the four corners. Art Space is a huge building and it only houses 43 apartments which aren't very large. Imagine the equivalent of SEVEN BUILDINGS THE SIZE OF ART SPACE [or more] on the land between North Ocean Ave., Main Street, and Havens Ave. The height and density will be more of an eyesore than the vacant Sweezy's store. Don't let the cutesy architectural drawings fool you...this won't be Disney Land. Everyone in Patchogue should be concerned about this---not just village residents. Main Street "belongs" to ALL OF US so we should ALL put a sign on our lawns saying "STOP THE 291 APARTMENTS". It's not too late for "Patchogue 2012" to say that they have heard the residents and will modify their plan. If they no longer represent us then it's time to try a new government. This will be up to village residents to save the town for ALL of Patchogue and everyone who enjoys our theater, restaurants, and new businesses.
Kim Martino February 16, 2012 at 03:26 AM
Good taste, do you realize that it DOES matter who you vote for? Residents First is fighting against the apartment plan and Patchogue 2012 is fighting for the apartment plan. Nu Village is irrelevant. A vote for R1 is against the apartments and a vote for P2012 is for the apartments.

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