Village To Vote On Piercing Two-Percent Tax Cap

The Board will decide on April 9; Pontieri says piercing would protect the Village from possible accounting errors.

The Patchogue Village Board of Trustees will vote on April 9 on whether or not to pierce the New York state-imposed two-percent tax cap that has afflicted school districts and villages across Long Island.

Patchogue Village Mayor Paul Pontieri had the date set at Monday's Village Board of Trustees meeting.

Pontieri told Patch Tuesday afternoon that wanting to pierce the state-imposed two-percent tax cap has more to do with keeping the Village safe in terms of its accounting and not due to needing to stay within the cap’s limits.

“If we make an error, that error carries into the next year,” Pontieri said.

Pontieri also cited common cost increases such as a 15 percent increase in medical expenses and other rising costs that make the two-percent cap a challenge to work with.

“We’ve created the fairly health surplus that we will be able to work off of, and hopefully that surplus is above what we need to do,” Pontieri said.

jimmy murphy March 27, 2012 at 11:49 PM
What a load of bull. You don’t plan for errors you prevent them. What’s next, planning for more people stealing? Keep the cap and tighten your belt pontieri.
Living in the Village March 28, 2012 at 12:46 AM
As a result, Hilton said fully repairing the dock is something that will have to be looked in consideration of the looming New York state two-percent tax cap. just a quote from feb 17th patch. the article stated that the dock was partially open for walking, fishing and crabbing. interesting - where would these activities be taking place. What a shame that some "backlogs" are preventing the village from hiring workers for at least 6 months. and now with the 2% tax cap vote - is there any hope ??
Chris Wendt March 28, 2012 at 10:30 AM
Why do PATCH editors use the word "pierce" in articles about local governments deciding to throw out the two percent tax cap? It's not like those governments are getting ready to wear a pretty diamond earring...they are chucking the intent of the STATE LAW, throwing in the face of their own taxpayers the governor's and the legislators' due respect and concern for the public's tax burden right., trampling it in the dirt, and then dancing upon it. While Patch the tune. We get it, Patch. There really is no two percent tax cap, other than on school districts.
eric anderson March 28, 2012 at 11:08 AM
shouldnt the village leaders ask the people if they want there taxes raised
cresten March 28, 2012 at 12:53 PM
hope people complaining about mayor "wonderful" didn't vote for him. Ye had your chance to throw em out and start fresh
Laureen Prendergast March 28, 2012 at 02:21 PM
Is this a vote or a Public Hearing?
David Kennedy March 28, 2012 at 03:43 PM
Hello Laureen, I ceratinly appreciate how passionate about Patchogue you have shown yourself to be.....at the last board meeting the Village Board voted to hold a public hearing to discuss the possibility of going over the 2% tax cap limit set by the state. Once the Village holds the Public Hearing they are, as I understand, able to vote on that issue at any time thereafter...while in many cases municipalities will "reserve decision" and wait to vote at a later meeting on the issue discussed at a public hearing, as a way to digest what was discussed at that hearing, it seems apparent the Mayor wants to have the vote right after the public hearing...I assume he wants to do that because, by law, the Village needs to adopt the budget by May 1st and does not want to delay passing a budget...but that is just speculation on my part..anyone with better knowledge on this, please comment further.
Lee March 29, 2012 at 01:09 AM
ha ha...very funny!
Tom Olsen March 29, 2012 at 01:19 AM
Keep the cap and tighten the belt. C’mon pontieri you know where the fat is. You got a deputy clerk that is not needed and you have a cleaning service AND your cousin both doing maintenance for the village. You are flying to kingdom come on your “Light in the Darkness” junkets boondoggle trips and you got more cars than you know what to do with and you just bought a new “extra” garbage truck for 150 grand…take out your knife and start slicing before you hit us up with ANOTHER 8% increase. This is not your slush fund Bud.
Robert F Edwards March 29, 2012 at 11:24 AM
This is not what the people of Patchogue want or can afford now! We pay more than our share of taxes. If the State has made a 2% tax cap then live with it! It seems that is OK to break the law when its convieient for you to do so? Mr Mayor, don't start of your term with this BS idea!
Jo Miller March 29, 2012 at 12:52 PM
The two per cent tax cap intended to provide tax relief for property owners. should not be pierced. The mayor and the trustees should be doing all they can to limit the tax burden for residents rather then making it heavier. Shame on all of us for not questioning all of the candidates about their tax plans, during the recent election. Everyone should atten t he publlic hearing on Apr. 9 to express their concerns. We should all pay attention to how the trustees vote. Remember, some trustees will be runnilng for election in two years.
Mary Kassner March 29, 2012 at 02:00 PM
Can I expect to see all those expressing an opinion on "busting" the tax cap at the April 9 public hearing? If not, don't complain about it!
Andy Miller March 29, 2012 at 08:09 PM
The mayor pulled out all the stops to win the election, including the teachers union and the democrat leaders, his relatives and old timers in Patchogue, the town of brookhaven and the big money developers. The least he could do now is pull out all the stops to lower taxes. Fire the unnecessary people at village hall, take pay cuts, collect some of the fees still owed, do something, but don't insult our intelligence by saying you are busting the cap to protect us from accounting errors. Do you know how absurd that sounds? And how insulting?
Lee March 30, 2012 at 12:02 AM
"If we make an error, that error carries into the next year," Pontieri said. AND "We've created the fairly health(y) surplus that we will be able to work off of, and hopefully that surplus is above what we need to do,Pontieri said. These two quotes are from the article above. The surplus is OUR money...why do taxes have to be raised over 2% if we have a healthy surplus? What the heck is REALLY going on? If we made a mistake, that error carries into the next FOUR years.
feduponbay March 30, 2012 at 12:04 AM
Andy.. excellent points
florence casey March 30, 2012 at 12:56 AM
Once again it looks like mayor pontiero has to make “tough decisions in tough times”. Like when he was gonna take the wrecking ball to the carnegie library. Here we go again….
Stumble and Leap March 30, 2012 at 02:24 AM
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Mayor Pontieri -will your despotism ever end? Now you and your cronies have the audacity to want to "pierce" the tax cap? Village Residents claim your right to abolish this tyranny !!!
Elisabeth McGuire March 30, 2012 at 02:16 PM
I obviously do not agree with "piercing" the tax cap. I would hope that before the Board would even entertain this idea that they do everything they can to cut wasteful spending and recover monies owed to the Village. Capital Management, LLC still owes the Village at least $100,000 for improvements to Shorefront Park, Mr. Celauro owes the Village approximately $33,000 for sidewalk repair, and Lombardi's on the Bay owes us $15,000 in sewer hook up fees that were incorrectly waived for them. The Village Attorney has sent letters of demand to these parties that remain unanswered as of the last Board meeting. This represents approximately $148,000 in uncollected funds, or about 1.5 % or our annual Village budget. It is unacceptable to allow these funds to go uncollected for so long, and these are only some of the receivables that we are aware of from recent meeting minutes. When NY State completes their audit of the Village and the Sewer District this year, there is a possibility we may discover more discrepancies and uncollected receivables. Only time will tell. I hope the Board does all of its necessary due diligence and also reinstates the Budget Review Committee that went by the wayside several years ago. These steps will go a long way to create good will, help protect the taxpayers and keep spending under control moving forward. Have a great weekend and holiday everyone! See you on April 9th I hope.
John Bogack March 30, 2012 at 06:39 PM
Update reference Mr. Kennedy's comments. The actual vote on the budget will take place on Wednesday April 17th at 6 p.m. at village hall. This is a special meeting and consistent with the past practice of the board to hold such meetings for this subject matter only. Last two years the board did take public comment on the budget then voted on it immediately after the public comment and their debate was ended. Copies of the proposed budget are not yet available for review by the public as of this date. The public hearing ot the 9th. a regular board meeting date, would then appear to be "limited" to the issue of whether the two percent cap should be pierced or not.
jimmy murphy March 30, 2012 at 09:06 PM
When WILL they release the budget for public review…at the stroke of midnight on April 16th? Typical.
feduponbay March 31, 2012 at 12:46 AM
Is there a reason why the mayor does not post on here the answers to anyone's concerns?
Lee March 31, 2012 at 12:57 AM
I can think of 291 reasons why he doesn't post on here.
feduponbay March 31, 2012 at 01:03 AM
I mean, how out of touch with the residents is our Mayor? All of these 'concerned residents' on here, and I never see a post by the board or mayor with real answers....


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